Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Can 4e Handle Different Genres of Fantasy?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4720841" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>There's something that's being missed with the broad brush strokes here.</p><p></p><p>Just because something <em>can</em> be put into the setting doesn't mean it <em>has</em> to. And, just because it's there, doesn't mean it's common place. </p><p></p><p>I don't think WotC is going to start referencing other books in the creation of their campaign setting. They're not going to say "This NPC is an Avenger. This here is a group of Avengers. Avengers work for this government. This is a tribe of Avengers." (The sidebars in Player's Guide to Eberron are a horrible culprit here). At the same time, they aren't going to say, "Class/Race X Y and Z do not fit here, do not play them, they are not allowed." </p><p></p><p>Even if the class or race doesn't fit if you injected 1,000 or more into the campaign, it's still possible to drop it in without disrupting the setting. Being "The first/the only/the last X" can go a long way. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, with some twisting you can tuck seemingly unreasonable stuff into the Setting proper. This was done quite a bit on Eberron's messageboards; someone would want to play Oriental Adventures-style Samurai/Ninja, but there's no "Asian" cultures that support that. However, it's easy to say "This clan of Samurai fits with this nation's Noble warriors. This clan of Samurai fits in with dwarves. Ninja fit with the practices of This or That group, because they're all about skulking in the shadows."</p><p></p><p>I really don't get the impression that, because Splatbooks exist and it's considered "Okay" to use them, that this will come in and ruin the setting. I'd really like KM or Wik to give an example to illustrate their point. Because right now, I can't help but think it's the equivalent of "In Dark Sun, metal is rare, but the PHB says that weapons are metal. Using the PHB ruins Dark Sun!"</p><p></p><p>Wizards have always existed in Core D&D, and yet Dark Sun could come in and say "Magic? That's messed up. It messes up the world. Magic is bad, m'kay?" And that didn't cause a fuss. So, where's the fire?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4720841, member: 54846"] There's something that's being missed with the broad brush strokes here. Just because something [i]can[/i] be put into the setting doesn't mean it [i]has[/i] to. And, just because it's there, doesn't mean it's common place. I don't think WotC is going to start referencing other books in the creation of their campaign setting. They're not going to say "This NPC is an Avenger. This here is a group of Avengers. Avengers work for this government. This is a tribe of Avengers." (The sidebars in Player's Guide to Eberron are a horrible culprit here). At the same time, they aren't going to say, "Class/Race X Y and Z do not fit here, do not play them, they are not allowed." Even if the class or race doesn't fit if you injected 1,000 or more into the campaign, it's still possible to drop it in without disrupting the setting. Being "The first/the only/the last X" can go a long way. Additionally, with some twisting you can tuck seemingly unreasonable stuff into the Setting proper. This was done quite a bit on Eberron's messageboards; someone would want to play Oriental Adventures-style Samurai/Ninja, but there's no "Asian" cultures that support that. However, it's easy to say "This clan of Samurai fits with this nation's Noble warriors. This clan of Samurai fits in with dwarves. Ninja fit with the practices of This or That group, because they're all about skulking in the shadows." I really don't get the impression that, because Splatbooks exist and it's considered "Okay" to use them, that this will come in and ruin the setting. I'd really like KM or Wik to give an example to illustrate their point. Because right now, I can't help but think it's the equivalent of "In Dark Sun, metal is rare, but the PHB says that weapons are metal. Using the PHB ruins Dark Sun!" Wizards have always existed in Core D&D, and yet Dark Sun could come in and say "Magic? That's messed up. It messes up the world. Magic is bad, m'kay?" And that didn't cause a fuss. So, where's the fire? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Can 4e Handle Different Genres of Fantasy?
Top