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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8373531" data-attributes="member: 82504">Gilgamesh ran for days at full on velocity... (this from a direct translation of the story). Beowulf can fight for hours underwater without issue.Ummm short rests? what are those?&nbsp;I agree there are many things RAW that you end up just over-riding.I honestly do not feel the high level not magic types as they stand are even close to epic feel let alone mythic. Their prominent attributes are frozen at really low levels and are basically mundane.&nbsp; I feel this was a goal and not so easily overridden... and even in combat it showsIn 4e at level 5 many a fighter can with a rain of steel mow through hoards of minions with grace and style.&nbsp; Potentially making more attacks than the level 20&nbsp;&nbsp; 5e fighter does as long as he can get in reach of enemies ( a warlord to guide/enhance his maneuvering for instance comes in handy here). The 5e fighter would be overwhelmed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 8373531, member: 82504"] Gilgamesh ran for days at full on velocity... (this from a direct translation of the story). Beowulf can fight for hours underwater without issue. Ummm short rests? what are those? I agree there are many things RAW that you end up just over-riding. I honestly do not feel the high level not magic types as they stand are even close to epic feel let alone mythic. Their prominent attributes are frozen at really low levels and are basically mundane. I feel this was a goal and not so easily overridden... and even in combat it shows In 4e at level 5 many a fighter can with a rain of steel mow through hoards of minions with grace and style. Potentially making more attacks than the level 20 5e fighter does as long as he can get in reach of enemies ( a warlord to guide/enhance his maneuvering for instance comes in handy here). The 5e fighter would be overwhelmed. [/QUOTE]

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