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<blockquote data-quote="Ristamar" data-source="post: 7317963" data-attributes="member: 1207">1) If the witches were already hidden (i.e. undetected), they shouldn't need to hide again. That being said, I likely would have made a secret Perception check for the PC to see if he heard the castings through the door, or (more likely) simply assume he heard voices if there wasn't much background noise. The witches could then attempt to hide after he entered (passive Perception vs Stealth).&nbsp; This would also be a great case for using passive initiative for PCs since you can roll the witches' initiative in secret to avoid tipping off a potential combat.2) I don't see a problem with this scenario, though you could have asked him to roll initiative with Disadvantage if he went in looking away before the dice were cast. It's a largely unnecessary gesture since the PC has the option to avert his gaze until his next turn before making a save as long as he's not surprised.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ristamar, post: 7317963, member: 1207"] 1) If the witches were already hidden (i.e. undetected), they shouldn't need to hide again. That being said, I likely would have made a secret Perception check for the PC to see if he heard the castings through the door, or (more likely) simply assume he heard voices if there wasn't much background noise. The witches could then attempt to hide after he entered (passive Perception vs Stealth). This would also be a great case for using passive initiative for PCs since you can roll the witches' initiative in secret to avoid tipping off a potential combat. 2) I don't see a problem with this scenario, though you could have asked him to roll initiative with Disadvantage if he went in looking away before the dice were cast. It's a largely unnecessary gesture since the PC has the option to avert his gaze until his next turn before making a save as long as he's not surprised. [/QUOTE]

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