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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7318416" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Ok, here’s how I run it:</p><p></p><p>- The Search Action allows a creature to attempt to detect a Hidden creature or object. A creature that is not using the Search Action might still detect a Hidden creature or object if the DC to find it is lower than its passive Wisdom (Perception).</p><p>- Not all unseen objects are actually Hidden. An object that is not hidden does not require a Search Action to find - if a creature looks in the place where the object is, that creature can see the object.</p><p>- The Hide Action allows a creature to become Hidden. That creature makes a Dexterity (Stealth) check, and the result of that check becomes the DC for any Wisdom (Perception) checks made to Search for it or find it with passive Wisdom (Perception).</p><p>- Normally, being unseen is a prerequisite that a creature must meet in order to take the Hide Action, though there are some exceptions, such as wood elves, who can take the Hide Action when lightly obscured by natural phenomena, whether they are unseen or not.</p><p>- Being invisible makes a creature impossible to see. This means it always meets the prerequisites to use the Hide Action. However, until an invisible creature takes the Hide Action, it is not automatically Hidden.</p><p>-This means the Search Action is not required to detect an invisible creature that is not Hidden. However, a creature attempting to detect an invisible but not Hidden creature won’t be able to do so simply by looking where the invisible creature is. It may need to attempt to find the invisible creature another way, such as by listening for sounds it makes.</p><p>- As with any action with an uncertain outcome, the DM adjudicates the results, usually by means of one or more checks. In this case, a Wisdom (Perception) vs. Dexterity (Stealth) contest might be appropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7318416, member: 6779196"] Ok, here’s how I run it: - The Search Action allows a creature to attempt to detect a Hidden creature or object. A creature that is not using the Search Action might still detect a Hidden creature or object if the DC to find it is lower than its passive Wisdom (Perception). - Not all unseen objects are actually Hidden. An object that is not hidden does not require a Search Action to find - if a creature looks in the place where the object is, that creature can see the object. - The Hide Action allows a creature to become Hidden. That creature makes a Dexterity (Stealth) check, and the result of that check becomes the DC for any Wisdom (Perception) checks made to Search for it or find it with passive Wisdom (Perception). - Normally, being unseen is a prerequisite that a creature must meet in order to take the Hide Action, though there are some exceptions, such as wood elves, who can take the Hide Action when lightly obscured by natural phenomena, whether they are unseen or not. - Being invisible makes a creature impossible to see. This means it always meets the prerequisites to use the Hide Action. However, until an invisible creature takes the Hide Action, it is not automatically Hidden. -This means the Search Action is not required to detect an invisible creature that is not Hidden. However, a creature attempting to detect an invisible but not Hidden creature won’t be able to do so simply by looking where the invisible creature is. It may need to attempt to find the invisible creature another way, such as by listening for sounds it makes. - As with any action with an uncertain outcome, the DM adjudicates the results, usually by means of one or more checks. In this case, a Wisdom (Perception) vs. Dexterity (Stealth) contest might be appropriate. [/QUOTE]
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