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Can a cleric use his weapon as a spellcasting focus?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7864505" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I would allow the weapon to be used as the focus instead of the shield (though understanding you've now risked being disarmed of your focus if you're disarmed of your weapon).</p><p></p><p>Noteworthy here, we're talking about a cleric weapon attack which...simply isn't that much damage. It's generally d6+str, with strength being a secondary stat for the cleric, so we're likely talking about requiring an attack roll to add an extra 5.5 points of damage to an attack. It's certainly helpful, but we're not talking about the same as adding an extra fighter attack, or an extra spell attack on top of a second spell attack. So that's the context of power we're talking about with this. If your Apollo cleric tries anything tricky which would bring the damage we're talking about well outside that rough estimate then I'd adjust this advice accordingly to be more costly to use this power for the cleric. </p><p></p><p>Charging the spell, that's sort of similar to two different methods which exist in the game: a cantrip, or a magic item.</p><p></p><p>For the cantrip method, simply adding that kind of lower amount of weapon damage to the casting of a spell is somewhat similar to the cantrips green flame blade or booming blade. I'd use those as the model, if you want to use a cantrip as the method of doing this. So it would be something like this: "Apollo's Smite (Cantrip): Cast this spell as a bonus action and simultaneously make a melee weapon attack against a foe. If your attack hits, apply damage as normal and you may now cast a Cleric spell which targets a single target, with the same foe that target. Apply all normal requirements for the spell (an additional spell attack, saving throw, etc.)." Or something like that (that's a bit of sloppy language there I am sure others can tighten up).</p><p></p><p>If instead you want to go the method of a magic item, it's somewhat similar to a frost brand weapon. Which doesn't add your strength bonus again to the damage, but still it's pretty close. I guess that's what I'd use as the baseline for this - a magic item like a frost brand. Which would make it "very rare".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7864505, member: 2525"] I would allow the weapon to be used as the focus instead of the shield (though understanding you've now risked being disarmed of your focus if you're disarmed of your weapon). Noteworthy here, we're talking about a cleric weapon attack which...simply isn't that much damage. It's generally d6+str, with strength being a secondary stat for the cleric, so we're likely talking about requiring an attack roll to add an extra 5.5 points of damage to an attack. It's certainly helpful, but we're not talking about the same as adding an extra fighter attack, or an extra spell attack on top of a second spell attack. So that's the context of power we're talking about with this. If your Apollo cleric tries anything tricky which would bring the damage we're talking about well outside that rough estimate then I'd adjust this advice accordingly to be more costly to use this power for the cleric. Charging the spell, that's sort of similar to two different methods which exist in the game: a cantrip, or a magic item. For the cantrip method, simply adding that kind of lower amount of weapon damage to the casting of a spell is somewhat similar to the cantrips green flame blade or booming blade. I'd use those as the model, if you want to use a cantrip as the method of doing this. So it would be something like this: "Apollo's Smite (Cantrip): Cast this spell as a bonus action and simultaneously make a melee weapon attack against a foe. If your attack hits, apply damage as normal and you may now cast a Cleric spell which targets a single target, with the same foe that target. Apply all normal requirements for the spell (an additional spell attack, saving throw, etc.)." Or something like that (that's a bit of sloppy language there I am sure others can tighten up). If instead you want to go the method of a magic item, it's somewhat similar to a frost brand weapon. Which doesn't add your strength bonus again to the damage, but still it's pretty close. I guess that's what I'd use as the baseline for this - a magic item like a frost brand. Which would make it "very rare". [/QUOTE]
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