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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7417482" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>So there is an agreement to be made that a critical hit at the wrong target is a miss.</p><p></p><p>The OPs example is a hidden target, but you could also apply this to an invisible target the same way a mirror image hit destroys and illation but does not hit the player or NPC using it.</p><p></p><p>I think the only questionable action here is the what exactly did the player said vs what was the players intent and how would the players character approach that task.</p><p></p><p>Example 1: "what exactly did the player said"</p><p> Player: says I search the dresser (player rolls a natural 20 + 2 for check)</p><p> GM: How do you search?</p><p> Player: I don't know I open drawers and check for false bottoms</p><p> GM: You find nothing </p><p>(there is a key strapped to the back of the dresser DC 10 to find but the player didn't say they checked the back of the dresser to GM calls it an automatic failure)</p><p></p><p>Example 2: "what was the players intent and how would the players character approach that task"</p><p> Player: says I search the dresser (player rolls a natural 20 + 2 for check)</p><p> GM: You a key strapped to the back of the dresser</p><p>(there is a key strapped to the back of the dresser DC 10 , the GM assumes the Players character searches for the whole dresser because the PC is experienced in searching while the Players is not, and the PC finds it)</p><p></p><p>Player said do I see where the arrow came from not do I see who shot it.</p><p></p><p>I think its bad GMing but people have different styles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7417482, member: 6880599"] So there is an agreement to be made that a critical hit at the wrong target is a miss. The OPs example is a hidden target, but you could also apply this to an invisible target the same way a mirror image hit destroys and illation but does not hit the player or NPC using it. I think the only questionable action here is the what exactly did the player said vs what was the players intent and how would the players character approach that task. Example 1: "what exactly did the player said" Player: says I search the dresser (player rolls a natural 20 + 2 for check) GM: How do you search? Player: I don't know I open drawers and check for false bottoms GM: You find nothing (there is a key strapped to the back of the dresser DC 10 to find but the player didn't say they checked the back of the dresser to GM calls it an automatic failure) Example 2: "what was the players intent and how would the players character approach that task" Player: says I search the dresser (player rolls a natural 20 + 2 for check) GM: You a key strapped to the back of the dresser (there is a key strapped to the back of the dresser DC 10 , the GM assumes the Players character searches for the whole dresser because the PC is experienced in searching while the Players is not, and the PC finds it) Player said do I see where the arrow came from not do I see who shot it. I think its bad GMing but people have different styles. [/QUOTE]
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