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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bryan Vining" data-source="post: 374283" data-attributes="member: 7628">Well, Todd, you cannot force the players to better fit your ideal of a player.  What you can, and in my opinion, should do is let them know about your concerns.  While there are a number of ways you can approach the problem without saying anything to the players about what bothers you, allow me to suggest that you not do that.  Instead, have a conversation with each player individually and discuss with them what you are finding un-fun about their playing.  Be open and honest, and try not to withhold anything.  While this may feel awkward at first, you will be opening up a dialogue by which you can improve your enjoyment of the game and theirs as well.  It is important that you do this in a way that does not belittle them or make them feel like they are poor players.  At the same time, you need to clearly lay out what's bugging you.  There's also some work for you to do on yourself, I would guess.  First, and you shoud definitely do this, be clear on why what they are doing bothers you.  If you try to solve this problem without making an attempt to understand why their playing bothers you, you are unlikely to be able to talk with them constructively about it.  Second, see if there's one or more things that you do as a DM that would make you unhappy if you were a player in your campaign.  Be honest with yourself.  After all, no one else will know what you thought.  Look for things you are doing that are keeping you from being a great DM.  Really look.  Your irritation with the players may be affecting how you run your game, and that will only make the problem worse, if that is true.  OK, well that's all for now, but if you'd like to hear more of my thoughts, let me know, and we'll converse privately.  Cheers,Bryan</blockquote>

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