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Can a dozen orcs challenge a 17th level party?
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<blockquote data-quote="maggot" data-source="post: 2610639" data-attributes="member: 1005"><p>Yes, it needs to be a combat encounter against 1st level orcs. No plot device, just request of the players, and verisimilitude. The party is returning to an area of the world where they started their adventuring years. The area is known for its vicious orc raiders. The party was on the receiving end of these raids many times.</p><p></p><p>Now the PCs are great and powerful heroes. They are returning to the area on another quest, and have commented how nice it will be to face orcs instead of dragons. They are looking forward to an easy fight.</p><p></p><p>I won't steal the encounter from them by not playing it out. I won't have the orcs magically not be there, or know not to attack these PCs, or change this part of the world to be now orc-free. The orcs haven't been eradicated or reformed. I won't steal the encounter this way. I won't have the orcs suddenly all be high-level barbarians and clerics. These will be the same orc raiders from the previous encounters.</p><p></p><p>So I will play out the dozen 1st level orcs like when the party was 4th level. That's what the players want. It will make the world seem more real, and will reinforce the fact the PCs are movers and shakers of the world. Sure it will be one sided. Sure it won't take long. But it might be fun. Maybe. The more planning I put into it, the more likely it is fun. And if it isn't fun, the players won't ask for it again. And that will mean more fun in the future.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="maggot, post: 2610639, member: 1005"] Yes, it needs to be a combat encounter against 1st level orcs. No plot device, just request of the players, and verisimilitude. The party is returning to an area of the world where they started their adventuring years. The area is known for its vicious orc raiders. The party was on the receiving end of these raids many times. Now the PCs are great and powerful heroes. They are returning to the area on another quest, and have commented how nice it will be to face orcs instead of dragons. They are looking forward to an easy fight. I won't steal the encounter from them by not playing it out. I won't have the orcs magically not be there, or know not to attack these PCs, or change this part of the world to be now orc-free. The orcs haven't been eradicated or reformed. I won't steal the encounter this way. I won't have the orcs suddenly all be high-level barbarians and clerics. These will be the same orc raiders from the previous encounters. So I will play out the dozen 1st level orcs like when the party was 4th level. That's what the players want. It will make the world seem more real, and will reinforce the fact the PCs are movers and shakers of the world. Sure it will be one sided. Sure it won't take long. But it might be fun. Maybe. The more planning I put into it, the more likely it is fun. And if it isn't fun, the players won't ask for it again. And that will mean more fun in the future. [/QUOTE]
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