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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5586621" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>I think you are wrong in this regard.</p><p>The four corners (anything without neutral in it) are extremes in alignment both in the DnD universe as well as the real one. People are not all LG and drift from there. They are all TN and "work toward" something more.</p><p>The average person doesn't run into the burning building. (Good action)</p><p>The average person would take money that they didn't earn and claim it as their own because they can't get caught. (Chaotic action)</p><p>The average person will be as lazy as they can get away with. (evil "sloth" action)</p><p>The average person will do any number of things if they get the chance. If they can do something without getting caught or suffering the consequences they will.</p><p>This is proved over and over with people in positions of power, money, influence or authority abusing their position for their own advantage.</p><p>Yes, I agree not everyone does this all the time. Not all act on impulse and ruin it for the rest of us. It happens enough that it is a fairly good indicator of the world (at least how I have seen it).</p><p></p><p>You said "However, if a law was proposed that put zero undue strain on a state while at the same time fed every homeless person on the street for a month, do you think that law would get passed?"</p><p>Yes I think it would. I don't know what this has to do with people but yes the Law would get passed. However I think it is more likely that a law get passed that allows the rich to get richer, the poor to get poorer.</p><p>The federal budget in the US is how much? How much is spent on wars and death? Compare that to how much would it cost to feed everyone in the US who can't feed themselves for a year.</p><p></p><p>A person with money enough to spare rarely donates all the can spare to a soup kitchen, be it time or money. They could and if they did and had pure intentions (not court ordered or trying to get out of something) then I would call that person Good, probably NG. Most people don't do this.</p><p></p><p>Despite a few bad things people are LG? One act cannot make then CN? That's like saying a good man is always a good man, even if he commits murder (like first degree). Clearly our society doesn't agree with this, as he is sent to jail. Or as many more of us believe, to hell later on. He can truly repent (Atonement spell <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />) and become the goodly alignment he was before but this is uncommon as well.</p><p></p><p>I would like to see your rational as to why you think most people are LG, beyond obeying the law and social norms when it suits them. I've given you several fair examples and good reasoning why that isn't true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5586621, member: 95493"] I think you are wrong in this regard. The four corners (anything without neutral in it) are extremes in alignment both in the DnD universe as well as the real one. People are not all LG and drift from there. They are all TN and "work toward" something more. The average person doesn't run into the burning building. (Good action) The average person would take money that they didn't earn and claim it as their own because they can't get caught. (Chaotic action) The average person will be as lazy as they can get away with. (evil "sloth" action) The average person will do any number of things if they get the chance. If they can do something without getting caught or suffering the consequences they will. This is proved over and over with people in positions of power, money, influence or authority abusing their position for their own advantage. Yes, I agree not everyone does this all the time. Not all act on impulse and ruin it for the rest of us. It happens enough that it is a fairly good indicator of the world (at least how I have seen it). You said "However, if a law was proposed that put zero undue strain on a state while at the same time fed every homeless person on the street for a month, do you think that law would get passed?" Yes I think it would. I don't know what this has to do with people but yes the Law would get passed. However I think it is more likely that a law get passed that allows the rich to get richer, the poor to get poorer. The federal budget in the US is how much? How much is spent on wars and death? Compare that to how much would it cost to feed everyone in the US who can't feed themselves for a year. A person with money enough to spare rarely donates all the can spare to a soup kitchen, be it time or money. They could and if they did and had pure intentions (not court ordered or trying to get out of something) then I would call that person Good, probably NG. Most people don't do this. Despite a few bad things people are LG? One act cannot make then CN? That's like saying a good man is always a good man, even if he commits murder (like first degree). Clearly our society doesn't agree with this, as he is sent to jail. Or as many more of us believe, to hell later on. He can truly repent (Atonement spell :P) and become the goodly alignment he was before but this is uncommon as well. I would like to see your rational as to why you think most people are LG, beyond obeying the law and social norms when it suits them. I've given you several fair examples and good reasoning why that isn't true. [/QUOTE]
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