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Can a Mount be Surprised When the Rider is Not?
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<blockquote data-quote="Atavar" data-source="post: 3635422" data-attributes="member: 7136"><p>Hey there,</p><p></p><p>I had a big disagreement with one of my players last session. I called for spot checks to see who would be surprised at the start of a battle, and I asked one player to make a spot check for his mount. He insisted that he didn't need to make one because his character was not surprised and his mount acts on his character's turn. So, if the character is not surprised, neither is his mount.</p><p></p><p>I, on the other hand, insisted that of course his mount could be surprised when he isn't. It would simply mean that in the surprise round his character could act but that his mount could not. If the character tried to get his mount to act (e.g. move) the mount would not be able to in the surprise round.</p><p></p><p>Since I am the DM we went with my ruling. It was moot that time because his mount made a high enough spot check roll and was not surprised, either. However, I know it will come up again, and he insists that I am hella wrong on this.</p><p></p><p>I don't see the "your mount acts on your turn" rule to mean that if you can act, so can your mount. I see it as, if your mount can act then he acts on your turn. If he cannot act...like if he is surprised and in a surprise round...then he cannot act, whether or not it is your turn.</p><p></p><p>So, what do you think, EN World? Am I hella wrong, hella right, or somewhere on between?</p><p></p><p>Later,</p><p></p><p>Atavar</p><p></p><p>P.S. Please don't mind all of the "hellas." I am in a Cartman mood today.</p><p></p><p>A.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atavar, post: 3635422, member: 7136"] Hey there, I had a big disagreement with one of my players last session. I called for spot checks to see who would be surprised at the start of a battle, and I asked one player to make a spot check for his mount. He insisted that he didn't need to make one because his character was not surprised and his mount acts on his character's turn. So, if the character is not surprised, neither is his mount. I, on the other hand, insisted that of course his mount could be surprised when he isn't. It would simply mean that in the surprise round his character could act but that his mount could not. If the character tried to get his mount to act (e.g. move) the mount would not be able to in the surprise round. Since I am the DM we went with my ruling. It was moot that time because his mount made a high enough spot check roll and was not surprised, either. However, I know it will come up again, and he insists that I am hella wrong on this. I don't see the "your mount acts on your turn" rule to mean that if you can act, so can your mount. I see it as, if your mount can act then he acts on your turn. If he cannot act...like if he is surprised and in a surprise round...then he cannot act, whether or not it is your turn. So, what do you think, EN World? Am I hella wrong, hella right, or somewhere on between? Later, Atavar P.S. Please don't mind all of the "hellas." I am in a Cartman mood today. A. [/QUOTE]
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