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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6531514" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's not completely random an arbitrary, it's based on local and personal and highly variable conditions. If some other system lets the group have more fun for XYZ reason, they should play it! The thing that I'm pointing out is that the Goals of Play section isn't just some baldly obvious milquetoast statement of "well, duh," but it actually serves to align play agendas in that it presents group enjoyment and storytelling as primary. Thus, it's not about individual agendas (I think detailed minis combat is the bees knees), but about shared enjoyment (does everyone enjoyed detailed minis combat, or are there some people in the group that lose all interest when the battlemats come out? do the other parts engage them enough despite this?) in a way that even pros can forget about. Whatever system serves the group's needs, that's the best system to play with for that group, and if what you want is...detailed world simulation, for instance, D&D won't give you that. Nah, it's not precious to have everyone doing something everyone is enjoying. It IS precious to insist that you only enjoy one very narrow band of experience and are unable to tolerate anything that breaks from that band. Like, if you insist that the only films you can ever possibly enjoy are wartime Fred Astaire musicals, and you refuse to watch anything else because you know it'll just be a waste of your time and you won't like it....you're being very precious about your film choices. If the goal of going to see a movie with your friends is to have a good time, you will cause the group to fail that goal except within a really narrow band of "movie." You might blame the movies for not being as good, but really, you're being very sensitive about your movie choices, and you're unwilling to move outside of your comfort zone. In RPG-land, if your chosen RPG experience MUST include, I dunno, HP-as-meat, and you are completely unable to tolerate any play experiences outside of that to the extent that you refuse to play any game that has HP-as-morale and you cannot abide 5e because it has HP-as-sort-of-morale-mostly, then you are being very precious about your RPG choices, not because you have a strong preference, but because you're intolerant of anything outside of your strong preference. The "preciousness" isn't about wanting a particular experience, it's about being unable to tolerate anything other than that particular experience.</blockquote>

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