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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 6639236" data-attributes="member: 97077">I make no judgment as to a DM's particular ruling in this discussion. What I'm factually stating is that a player is not entitled to any sort of check for any action he or she has his or her character take in the game. A check is used to resolve uncertainty that the DM establishes. If the DM says that the orc can see the halfling despite the halfling's attempt to hide behind the human, then that's what happens - the DM narrates the results of the adventures' actions. If the DM says the fictional action of hiding behind the human has an uncertain outcome, an ability check is called for.A player has no recourse to the rules which serve the DM who brings them into play as needed. A player only has recourse to the fiction. It is, of course, reasonable for a player whose character is in an exact or substantially similar fictional situation to expect to make a check for a given fictional action (or to succeed outright or fail outright) if he or she has done so before. But players are not entitled in any way to make one without the DM's say so. In fact, if you're a player, you want to strive for auto-success. Asking or demanding to make a check is just asking for a chance to fail!If a player has an issue with his or her DM's rulings, that's a discussion to be had outside the context of the game.</blockquote>