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Can a Slowed Creature Shift?
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5246165" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>PC X moves, and then commences a second action - let's say Passing Attack, or a charge. As a reaction in response to the first of the attacks in Passing Attack, or as a reaction to moving during the charge (let's say there's an enemy archer who declared a readied action with a dazing power) X gets dazed.</p><p></p><p>I take it that you are saying that X can make the second attack in a Passing Attack, or complete his/her movement and attack with a charge. Your reasoning is that "reactions cannot invalidate actions" or that daze cannot make you "unspend" an action.</p><p></p><p>I'm curious what others think. My feeling is that once you're dazed, you're limited thenceforth to one action on your turn. If you've already taken more than one action, so be it - the enemy who dazed you struck too late! But if you're part way through resolving an action with complex sub-parts ("events" in Eamon's terminology) than I don't see why the dazed condition doesn't apply and limit you to one action - obviously nothing you've already done (like making the first of your Passing Attack attacks, or moving as the start of your charge) is lost, but I don't see that you get to keep going, and complete your second action, even though you're dazed.</p><p></p><p>In short, I don't see the difference between being dazed, and having all legal targets moved away. Neither is more nor less a way of "invalidating" or "unspending" an action. (And the Immediate Reaction rules expressly say that a reaction may "interrupt other</p><p>actions a combatant takes after" the reaction is triggered.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5246165, member: 42582"] PC X moves, and then commences a second action - let's say Passing Attack, or a charge. As a reaction in response to the first of the attacks in Passing Attack, or as a reaction to moving during the charge (let's say there's an enemy archer who declared a readied action with a dazing power) X gets dazed. I take it that you are saying that X can make the second attack in a Passing Attack, or complete his/her movement and attack with a charge. Your reasoning is that "reactions cannot invalidate actions" or that daze cannot make you "unspend" an action. I'm curious what others think. My feeling is that once you're dazed, you're limited thenceforth to one action on your turn. If you've already taken more than one action, so be it - the enemy who dazed you struck too late! But if you're part way through resolving an action with complex sub-parts ("events" in Eamon's terminology) than I don't see why the dazed condition doesn't apply and limit you to one action - obviously nothing you've already done (like making the first of your Passing Attack attacks, or moving as the start of your charge) is lost, but I don't see that you get to keep going, and complete your second action, even though you're dazed. In short, I don't see the difference between being dazed, and having all legal targets moved away. Neither is more nor less a way of "invalidating" or "unspending" an action. (And the Immediate Reaction rules expressly say that a reaction may "interrupt other actions a combatant takes after" the reaction is triggered.) [/QUOTE]
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