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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5302418" data-attributes="member: 23977">I think the players in this case are deciding the fiction that backs it up. See I disagree here- I kind of find it the other way around.I like games like 4e that give you a rule, then let you decide for the most part about the corner cases and weird oddities.In a game like 3e because the guy writing the rule thought it shouldn't apply &quot;realistically or whatever&quot; to swarms it wouldn't apply to swarms, and it would say so.&nbsp; Cool if that works for you, but me? I tend to start thinking, but what about this case, or this case... Or what about...Now if you're looking for a way to actually have whatever the effect is apply to what the designer thought it should apply to, you have to jump through hoops to make it work.So for me, 4e style is much easier to work with.Imaginations are different in each person, and so are &quot;knowledge levels.&quot; What one person knows as a &quot;fact&quot; another person might know is actually BS.Just gimmie the rule and I can decide how it applies.Different strokes n all that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 5302418, member: 23977"] I think the players in this case are deciding the fiction that backs it up. See I disagree here- I kind of find it the other way around. I like games like 4e that give you a rule, then let you decide for the most part about the corner cases and weird oddities. In a game like 3e because the guy writing the rule thought it shouldn't apply "realistically or whatever" to swarms it wouldn't apply to swarms, and it would say so. Cool if that works for you, but me? I tend to start thinking, but what about this case, or this case... Or what about... Now if you're looking for a way to actually have whatever the effect is apply to what the designer thought it should apply to, you have to jump through hoops to make it work. So for me, 4e style is much easier to work with. Imaginations are different in each person, and so are "knowledge levels." What one person knows as a "fact" another person might know is actually BS. Just gimmie the rule and I can decide how it applies. Different strokes n all that. [/QUOTE]

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