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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Someone" data-source="post: 5310964" data-attributes="member: 5656">I care because the basic rules describe actions that everyone can do; everthing can basic attack, bull rush, grab, jump, etc. Not everyone can fly, come back from the dead once per day or load a handful of bolts in the crossbow and shoot everyone in sight. Basic rules tend to describe things that fall under Earth Physics, not Awesome Physics and that everyone and everything can do.He "esily" can because the rules allow him. If the rules said that he can bull rush the bees, you'd be arguing how the Awesome Physics of D&Dworld justofy that move.Not relevant. Not relevant. Bob can always grab the bees, regardless of the table he plays at. If he tries to bull rush the bees he needs to aks the DM to make a house rule on the spot. There's no justification whatsoever for that; it's inconsistent. Game balance doesn't jusify it. Awesome Physics don't justify it. That's the issue I'm bringing to the thread and you keep dodging.  ROFL! Say that at the CharOp forums.That'd be my house rule, based on my honest interpretation of the author's intetion. It comes very, very close ahea of "you can bull rush swarms."Nice strawman. Have a cookie. No, it isn't. It's the central point. Please don't ignore it.Many errata documents fixing powers and how basic skills work tend to make that statement not so appealing. Nobody used Stealth when they were playtesting the game, but lots of people wrestled bees?I don't quite undertsand what you wrote there.I could write Generic Non-Heroic NPC instead of Fido if you don't like the poor dog. GNHNPC, using close-to-earth-physics, can grab swarms without problems, and Bob, whose exploits include performing a rather violent vasectomy on Orcus, can't bull rush swarms even with Awesome Physics. And not only he just need to ask his DM to page 42 the action; he needs to aks his DM to explicitly break a rule ("Thou shall not Bull Rush swarms"). You can't seriously say it doesn't boggle your mind.My bad, you're right on this.No it isn't. The argument is more like 'The rules on swarms are inconsistent. This simple house rule harms no one and fixes that.'</blockquote>

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