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Can a wand be used more than once per round?
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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 2687563" data-attributes="member: 6239"><p>Your interpretation adds a check for the 'end of the round' where nothing else does. The flow of a D&D combat can ignore this if not for your reading. I say this check slows down, i.e. breaks the flow, of continues actions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see you have been confused by my kobolds. They are tricky. I was speaking about a perfectly legal situation where each sorcerer cast their own spell out of their daily allotment. This still means 16d4+16 damage ignoring AC and ethrealness. That is dangerous at an EL 9, but perfectly valid.</p><p></p><p>How is a few, note the FEW limitation, characters sharing a wand that much more powerful? The limitation is on actions, and this tatic doesn't eliminate that restriction at all. As a bucket can be passed between multiple people in a round, I think a wand can see multiple uses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, silly exploits are still silly exploits. But I set the bar higher than you, I guess. There are feats out that let a single person use multiple wands in a round. A party can buy two half-full wands at cost of one full wand. I think Ad Hoc Simultenaity applies if you try to get 16 people to use the same wand at the same time. Two or three isn't a strech at all.</p><p></p><p>Lets try another example, from a more modern point of view. I have a gun, which I shoot. Then an enemy snatches that gun from me and shoots back. This is a typical scene in many action movies. Its not a strech at all. But it does happen faster than 6 seconds. Since a wand is a spell trigger item, I think the analogy fitting.</p><p></p><p>If you want a simpler example, take a group of people tossing an item along. Person 1 throws, person 2 readies to catch and throw. This can easily get through 4 or 6 people in six seconds, assuming short throws. But it is a standard action to throw. I say Ad Hoc Simultenaity keeps that chain from breaking the sound barrier, but not from a ball speed of effectively 30 MPH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 2687563, member: 6239"] Your interpretation adds a check for the 'end of the round' where nothing else does. The flow of a D&D combat can ignore this if not for your reading. I say this check slows down, i.e. breaks the flow, of continues actions. I see you have been confused by my kobolds. They are tricky. I was speaking about a perfectly legal situation where each sorcerer cast their own spell out of their daily allotment. This still means 16d4+16 damage ignoring AC and ethrealness. That is dangerous at an EL 9, but perfectly valid. How is a few, note the FEW limitation, characters sharing a wand that much more powerful? The limitation is on actions, and this tatic doesn't eliminate that restriction at all. As a bucket can be passed between multiple people in a round, I think a wand can see multiple uses. Don't get me wrong, silly exploits are still silly exploits. But I set the bar higher than you, I guess. There are feats out that let a single person use multiple wands in a round. A party can buy two half-full wands at cost of one full wand. I think Ad Hoc Simultenaity applies if you try to get 16 people to use the same wand at the same time. Two or three isn't a strech at all. Lets try another example, from a more modern point of view. I have a gun, which I shoot. Then an enemy snatches that gun from me and shoots back. This is a typical scene in many action movies. Its not a strech at all. But it does happen faster than 6 seconds. Since a wand is a spell trigger item, I think the analogy fitting. If you want a simpler example, take a group of people tossing an item along. Person 1 throws, person 2 readies to catch and throw. This can easily get through 4 or 6 people in six seconds, assuming short throws. But it is a standard action to throw. I say Ad Hoc Simultenaity keeps that chain from breaking the sound barrier, but not from a ball speed of effectively 30 MPH. [/QUOTE]
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