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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2687667" data-attributes="member: 707">Ah.  I see what you're saying, though I don't know for whom it would be true.  The action that you believe would break the flow of continuous actions consists of drawing a line on the list of combatants I keep, and noting that line every time we come to it.  It doesn't break any flow at all.  Or at least, it wouldn't in theory, as admittedly I've never had to worry about several players trying to cheese a wand.I wasn't responding to your kobolds, and nowhere am I arguing that the wand exploit is overpowered.  I'm arguing that it breaks believability, and can be easily dealth with with a RAW solution, which I use.The wand can be passed around, sure.  It just can't be used several times simultaneously.I have no problem with such feats.  And, were two PCs to each have such a feat, I'd allow them to each use the same wand in a round, since they've taken a feat to halve the time it takes to activate one.  (I might require a dex check if they decide to each use one wand, then simultaneously exchange wands, but it'd be doable.)I disagree.  If two or three people can use the same wand in the same period of time, then one person should be able to do the same, because it obviously only takes 1/2 or 1/3 of a round to use a wand.  That's not the way it works RAW, barring feats.  A wand takes a standard action to use, and there's not enough time in the remaining move action to use it again.The analogy has absolutely no bearing on the issue at hand, because using a wand is not an instantaneous action which requires no concentration, like firing a gun.  If it were, it'd be a Swift Action, not a Standard Action.The speed of the ball has nothing to do with it.  Let's assume that bouncing the ball takes roughly 4 seconds (more than half the 6 second round, which is fitting since a standard action can be used to perform a move, but a move action cannot be used to perform a standard action.)  And throwing the ball to another guy only takes 1 second.  So the first person bounces the ball, then throws it.  5 seconds have passed.  Now the second guy has the ball.  He starts to bounce it, but he's only 1/4 of the way through when the 6 seconds are up.  Two guys cannot bounce the same ball in six seconds.</blockquote>

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