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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2513957" data-attributes="member: 23094">In other words, "I know you are, but so am I"?Sure, I'll buy that.There is a disturbing tendency on this board for posters to ask a rules-related question and then respond very rudely when the answer to that question doesn't agree with their preconceived notions of what that answer should look like.Hypersmurf's answer to you was not only perfectly correct, it was also helpful - if you're willing to take your own advice and look beyond the specific example given.I'll help out.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Your specific example was a lich, upon whom you wanted some form of mind-control via a charm-like effect (to which liches are normally immune).What you were really after, however, was a more general "Can you use Wish to affect creatures with things they are normally immune to?"Hyp's specific example was using Wish to emulate a Command Undead spell, to which liches are not generally immune.More generally, sure, liches are immune to enchantment effects, but they are not immune to necromantic effects that work similarly to enchantment effects.  So, when possible, examine extant spells to find one which has the effect you're looking and use Wish's native Emulate Spell feature to emulate that effect.I would be shocked if, somewhere in the vast piles of 3.X spells, there isn't a Command Construct spell which allows you to temporarily "reprogram" a construct's commands.And, even if there isn't, take Command Undead as an example.  It takes a normally 1st-level Enchantment spell (Charm Person), improves it halfway to Dominate Person (you can give commands, but must succeed at a Cha check to force the creature to follow them), improves the duration (1 hr / level -> 1 day / level) and changes the school to Necromancy.Perform the same or similar operations to arrive at a Command Construct spell (probably Transmutation, 1 round / level).  At any rate, no matter what you do to it, this spell is going to be an Wiz / Sor spell of 8th-level or less, and therefore emulatable by Wish.Happy gaming!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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