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<blockquote data-quote="DDNFan" data-source="post: 6308256" data-attributes="member: 6776483">I'm sorry for even getting into thisI don't really care about 4th edition rules debates. But improvising actions in Next work much better, more freeform and less restrictive. Pushing a boulder onto an enemy mage should deal 100d6 damage, or whatever the DM thinks is appropriate for the size of the boulder, not some arbitrarily-pre-defined-damage-for-game-balance-reasons as per P42.The fact that you cannot understand this is why you do not understand why the majority of people who've actually played 5th edition consider it to be far more amenable to improvisation. Because there are less moving parts in the rules, less interlocking dependencies, and there is no Page 42 limitation placed on the DM that makes players who attempt it to realize how pointless an &quot;option&quot; it truly is. An option that is strictly inferior is not really an option, it's merely the illusion of one. &quot;You can do anything you want in this game, so long as the outcome is weaker than your AEDU powers&quot;. This is what 4th edition improv boils down to, as per the rules. Players realize this, and therefore do not use P42 on a regular basis. Because it sucks.5th edition has no such arbitrary rules limitations placed upon players' actions, it is entirely up to the DM, and is therefore a far superior system to engage players in the world around them since they will be trying to figure out smart ways of getting a leg up on their foes, rather than just resigning themselves to spamming their fixed attack routine with a million buff dependencies and triggers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DDNFan, post: 6308256, member: 6776483"] [b]I'm sorry for even getting into this[/b] I don't really care about 4th edition rules debates. But improvising actions in Next work much better, more freeform and less restrictive. Pushing a boulder onto an enemy mage should deal 100d6 damage, or whatever the DM thinks is appropriate for the size of the boulder, not some arbitrarily-pre-defined-damage-for-game-balance-reasons as per P42. The fact that you cannot understand this is why you do not understand why the majority of people who've actually played 5th edition consider it to be far more amenable to improvisation. Because there are less moving parts in the rules, less interlocking dependencies, and there is no Page 42 limitation placed on the DM that makes players who attempt it to realize how pointless an "option" it truly is. An option that is strictly inferior is not really an option, it's merely the illusion of one. "You can do anything you want in this game, so long as the outcome is weaker than your AEDU powers". This is what 4th edition improv boils down to, as per the rules. Players realize this, and therefore do not use P42 on a regular basis. Because it sucks. 5th edition has no such arbitrary rules limitations placed upon players' actions, it is entirely up to the DM, and is therefore a far superior system to engage players in the world around them since they will be trying to figure out smart ways of getting a leg up on their foes, rather than just resigning themselves to spamming their fixed attack routine with a million buff dependencies and triggers. [/QUOTE]

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