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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 6309938" data-attributes="member: 23484">Hi There.I'm glad I caught that you edited your post before I responded. I'll deal with the original post and then the edit.I'm sorry you feel that direct engagement with your actual words, rather than blithe summaries or fanciful imagined quotes, is bad form.&nbsp; I am calling you out for bad argumentation, and for not engaging with your interlocutors in respectful conversation. You demonstrate that again here. I'm sorry you find it bizarre and beyond the pale to address the substance of what you say. I understand fully that your experience differs from that of others, and from mine. That diversity should be celebrated, rather than attacked. Now the edit:It may not be; I only said it seems to be a fair summary to me. As I said, and as you know, I have know idea if what you originally called a straw man was a reference to you or not. But that's the way I, as someone who has played 4e, took it. I am telling you the association that I made. I, as someone who has played 4e, do not see it as cheap, or unfair, or bad-faith. I recognize that any rule system can result in a diversity of play styles. And one of those play styles, apparently experienced by many people in the thread, generated experiences close to mine. Believe me, your position is not in doubt. You have been very clear, many times. Happy gaming!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 6309938, member: 23484"] Hi There. I'm glad I caught that you edited your post before I responded. I'll deal with the original post and then the edit. I'm sorry you feel that direct engagement with your actual words, rather than blithe summaries or fanciful imagined quotes, is bad form. I am calling you out for bad argumentation, and for not engaging with your interlocutors in respectful conversation. You demonstrate that again here. I'm sorry you find it bizarre and beyond the pale to address the substance of what you say. I understand fully that your experience differs from that of others, and from mine. That diversity should be celebrated, rather than attacked. Now the edit: It may not be; I only said it seems to be a fair summary to me. As I said, and as you know, I have know idea if what you originally called a straw man was a reference to you or not. But that's the way I, as someone who has played 4e, took it. I am telling you the association that I made. I, as someone who has played 4e, do not see it as cheap, or unfair, or bad-faith. I recognize that any rule system can result in a diversity of play styles. And one of those play styles, apparently experienced by many people in the thread, generated experiences close to mine. Believe me, your position is not in doubt. You have been very clear, many times. Happy gaming! [/QUOTE]

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