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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6310287" data-attributes="member: 5143">Did I?&nbsp; My reading of p42 is &quot;If someone attempts something that isn't one of their powers, this handy chart shows you approximately how much damage the action should do based on the level of the PC doing the action.&nbsp; There is damage for at-will damage, encounter damage, and daily damage.&nbsp; If you think the action can be repeatedly done over and over then give it at-will.&nbsp; If it's something that requires a special opportunity like a rug under someone's feet that can only be used once in a combat, then give it the encounter damage.&nbsp; If it's something really rare that seems like it would be really powerful but requires a very specific set of circumstances, then give them the daily damage.&quot;I don't have my books in front of me.&nbsp; But, if I remember correctly, p42 mentions that it is for figuring out damage on &quot;stunts&quot;.&nbsp; Which seems like it is a term for any action that isn't covered by the rules until you look at the PHB and see that &quot;performing a stunt&quot; is a trained only use of Acrobatics.&nbsp; There was some debate amongst people I played with as to whether or not you could get that damage at all without succeeding in an Acrobatics check first.&nbsp; A bunch of us decided it was ambiguous enough that even if we were interpreting it broadly and allowing its use without Acrobatics, it still should require an appropriate to hit roll and most of the time you are going to get Encounter or At-will damage the same as any of your powers would do...but without an additional effect.&nbsp; So it was just a bad idea to use it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6310287, member: 5143"] Did I? My reading of p42 is "If someone attempts something that isn't one of their powers, this handy chart shows you approximately how much damage the action should do based on the level of the PC doing the action. There is damage for at-will damage, encounter damage, and daily damage. If you think the action can be repeatedly done over and over then give it at-will. If it's something that requires a special opportunity like a rug under someone's feet that can only be used once in a combat, then give it the encounter damage. If it's something really rare that seems like it would be really powerful but requires a very specific set of circumstances, then give them the daily damage." I don't have my books in front of me. But, if I remember correctly, p42 mentions that it is for figuring out damage on "stunts". Which seems like it is a term for any action that isn't covered by the rules until you look at the PHB and see that "performing a stunt" is a trained only use of Acrobatics. There was some debate amongst people I played with as to whether or not you could get that damage at all without succeeding in an Acrobatics check first. A bunch of us decided it was ambiguous enough that even if we were interpreting it broadly and allowing its use without Acrobatics, it still should require an appropriate to hit roll and most of the time you are going to get Encounter or At-will damage the same as any of your powers would do...but without an additional effect. So it was just a bad idea to use it. [/QUOTE]

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