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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6310317" data-attributes="member: 5143">Yeah, I definitely did not read that section as prescriptive.&nbsp; I thought that entire section on Tiers was to be read as &quot;Keep in mind that when you get to these levels, you'll have feats, class features, powers, PPs, and rituals that well let you do all sorts of extremely powerful things.&nbsp; DMs, you should expect PCs to have the ability to do some of these things.&nbsp; However, if you don't have a rule that tells you that you can do it, you are still a normal human in all other aspects.&quot;Even at Paragon Tier, if someone said, &quot;I'd like to hold on to a hammer inside a forge&quot; I'd say, &quot;Are you immune to fire using some power or feat?&nbsp; No?&nbsp; Alright, your hands nearly melt off as you take...let's say 3d10 points of fire damage.&nbsp; If you'd like to hold on despite the pain you can make a hard Endurance check for your level.&nbsp; You'll keep taking the damage each round you hold it, however.&quot;I read the section as &quot;This is what MIGHT be possible for people at this level&quot; and not &quot;This is always possible for people at this level if they ask nicely&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6310317, member: 5143"] Yeah, I definitely did not read that section as prescriptive. I thought that entire section on Tiers was to be read as "Keep in mind that when you get to these levels, you'll have feats, class features, powers, PPs, and rituals that well let you do all sorts of extremely powerful things. DMs, you should expect PCs to have the ability to do some of these things. However, if you don't have a rule that tells you that you can do it, you are still a normal human in all other aspects." Even at Paragon Tier, if someone said, "I'd like to hold on to a hammer inside a forge" I'd say, "Are you immune to fire using some power or feat? No? Alright, your hands nearly melt off as you take...let's say 3d10 points of fire damage. If you'd like to hold on despite the pain you can make a hard Endurance check for your level. You'll keep taking the damage each round you hold it, however." I read the section as "This is what MIGHT be possible for people at this level" and not "This is always possible for people at this level if they ask nicely". [/QUOTE]

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