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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6311177" data-attributes="member: 2525">Wait wait wait.  It absolutely relates to archery.  You start your attack at range with archery.  But you can (full) move, then shoot, then (full) move as a rogue.  If you do this with the shot taking place still at just inside regular range, then you have made yourself a MUCH harder target for your foe.  First, you can much more easily use cover.  Second, you can much more easily use long range.  Third, you much less frequently risk attacks of opportunity from your foe or their allies.  All around, the archer range has a great deal of defensive advantage over the melee rogue.  You don't have to be particularly crafty - pretty much anyone knows a wall provides better cover than open territory, and that it's often easier to get to a wall if you don't have to run up to a foe first before running to the wall.No "may" about it.  It's a heck of a lot easier to get surprise from range, than it is from right next to something! And as your PS noted, there is no more 30 feet requirement.  Our half-elf, who has a 35 move, will hide and move within range, assassinate, and then retreat another 35 feet.  Now the target, if they survived, typically still cannot even get to the rogue (if they can even find him) with even a double move. It's a lot easier for that archer rogue to deal with the sentries than the melee rogue.Usually there is blocking terrain somewhere within range of your target, so the rogue is not screwed they are instead retreating and hiding again, typically further away than their target can reach in even a double move.As for the rest of your analysis involving feats and such, let's leave feats out of this as they're purely optional.</blockquote>

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