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Can AoO provoke AoO?
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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 342412" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Can AoO provoke AoO?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Suck to be the polearm wielder. Polearms aren't meant for use one-on-one. They're designed to be used in massed formations; while YOU might not be able to reach 5' away from you, FIVE of your FRIENDS behind you, and two friends off to the side, *can*. A 20-by-2 line of polearm-wielding fighters in close formation with high Dexterity and Combat Reflexes is absolute [/b]murder[/b] to beat with melee; that being the very intent of polearms, of course.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about when the action is a trip? If you try to run away from me (triggering an AO for leaving my threat zone and/or for running), and I use my AO to TRIP you ... what happens? do you slid on your back or belly for quadruple your move? IF so, shouldn't that cause surface-dependant damage to you,or your armor?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All well and good, but it <strong>does</strong> create confusion when the form of attack is SPECIFICALLY one which would, by it's very nature, preclude movement -- a trip, or even a grapple (an Illithid with improved grab gets an AO on you as you turn and run; it hits, it gets the grapple, you're held .... do you actually carry the Illithid with you as you complete your move?).</p><p></p><p>It's a confusing dilemma, indeed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 342412, member: 6875"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Can AoO provoke AoO?[/b] Suck to be the polearm wielder. Polearms aren't meant for use one-on-one. They're designed to be used in massed formations; while YOU might not be able to reach 5' away from you, FIVE of your FRIENDS behind you, and two friends off to the side, *can*. A 20-by-2 line of polearm-wielding fighters in close formation with high Dexterity and Combat Reflexes is absolute [/b]murder[/b] to beat with melee; that being the very intent of polearms, of course. What about when the action is a trip? If you try to run away from me (triggering an AO for leaving my threat zone and/or for running), and I use my AO to TRIP you ... what happens? do you slid on your back or belly for quadruple your move? IF so, shouldn't that cause surface-dependant damage to you,or your armor? All well and good, but it [b]does[/b] create confusion when the form of attack is SPECIFICALLY one which would, by it's very nature, preclude movement -- a trip, or even a grapple (an Illithid with improved grab gets an AO on you as you turn and run; it hits, it gets the grapple, you're held .... do you actually carry the Illithid with you as you complete your move?). It's a confusing dilemma, indeed. [/QUOTE]
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