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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 4204039" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Hmm... where to begin...</p><p></p><p>First off, under Permanency, Arcane sight is under the list for "You can make the following spells permanent in regard to yourself." - not under "In addition to personal use, permanency can be used to make the following spells permanent on yourself, another creature, or an object (as appropriate)"; you can't hire someone to do it for you, although you could do it by way of a scroll or a Ring of Spell Storing (you read the scroll, you're the caster; you activate the ring of spell storing, you're the caster). You've already let him get away with something that requires a house-rule to do in the first place; normally, he'd be required to cast Permanency himself.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, it just sees auras. You know which square it's in, so you've got a target for Glitterdust, but you don't see the actual person, so you still suffer a 50% miss chance.</p><p></p><p>Third - he's technically within his rights to ask you to describe magical auras he encounters; Arcane Sight doesn't even need concentration. Fortunately, most items list their aura type and strength in the item description, but to get the school, he's got a spellcraft check to make (which, for a Wizard, is likely trivial - it's only 15+spell level, or 15 + 1/2 caster level for a nonspell effect). Likewise, stronger auras can drown out weaker auras; you're well within your rights to just list the aura of the highest level spell on the target.</p><p></p><p>Fourth - there are counters. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicAura.htm" target="_blank">Magic Aura</a> will do the job for items - and as he's only looking at Auras, there's no save for that use. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm" target="_blank">Misdirection</a> calls for a Will save on the part of the looker, but will also do the job quite handily. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nondetection.htm" target="_blank">Nondetection</a> requires a caster level check on his part - based on the caster level of the spell he's using, not his natural caster level; he's stuck with whatever caster level is on the Arcane Sight that he used. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm" target="_blank">Mind Blank</a> arguably stops it, by way of the "information gathering by divination spells or effects" clause. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagicGreater.htm" target="_blank">Greater Dispel Magic</a> has a chance of getting rid of the effect entirely (do note: There's a minimum caster level for Arcane Sight of 11th, so you'll want the Greater version of Dispel Magic, not the normal verson).</p><p></p><p>Fifth: He's just volunteered himself out of all stealth operations. Arcane Sight makes your eyes glow, and Invisibility isn't permitted to eliminate light sources. There's an odd blue glow that gives away his position wherever he goes. Additionally, when he's not covering his eyes, he's obviously a caster (glowing eyes). Unfortunately, he can cover his eyes at all times if he uses lenses (such as, say, Goggles of Night) as the spell requires Line of Sight, not Line of Effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 4204039, member: 29252"] Hmm... where to begin... First off, under Permanency, Arcane sight is under the list for "You can make the following spells permanent in regard to yourself." - not under "In addition to personal use, permanency can be used to make the following spells permanent on yourself, another creature, or an object (as appropriate)"; you can't hire someone to do it for you, although you could do it by way of a scroll or a Ring of Spell Storing (you read the scroll, you're the caster; you activate the ring of spell storing, you're the caster). You've already let him get away with something that requires a house-rule to do in the first place; normally, he'd be required to cast Permanency himself. Secondly, it just sees auras. You know which square it's in, so you've got a target for Glitterdust, but you don't see the actual person, so you still suffer a 50% miss chance. Third - he's technically within his rights to ask you to describe magical auras he encounters; Arcane Sight doesn't even need concentration. Fortunately, most items list their aura type and strength in the item description, but to get the school, he's got a spellcraft check to make (which, for a Wizard, is likely trivial - it's only 15+spell level, or 15 + 1/2 caster level for a nonspell effect). Likewise, stronger auras can drown out weaker auras; you're well within your rights to just list the aura of the highest level spell on the target. Fourth - there are counters. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicAura.htm]Magic Aura[/url] will do the job for items - and as he's only looking at Auras, there's no save for that use. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm]Misdirection[/url] calls for a Will save on the part of the looker, but will also do the job quite handily. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nondetection.htm]Nondetection[/url] requires a caster level check on his part - based on the caster level of the spell he's using, not his natural caster level; he's stuck with whatever caster level is on the Arcane Sight that he used. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm]Mind Blank[/URL] arguably stops it, by way of the "information gathering by divination spells or effects" clause. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagicGreater.htm]Greater Dispel Magic[/URL] has a chance of getting rid of the effect entirely (do note: There's a minimum caster level for Arcane Sight of 11th, so you'll want the Greater version of Dispel Magic, not the normal verson). Fifth: He's just volunteered himself out of all stealth operations. Arcane Sight makes your eyes glow, and Invisibility isn't permitted to eliminate light sources. There's an odd blue glow that gives away his position wherever he goes. Additionally, when he's not covering his eyes, he's obviously a caster (glowing eyes). Unfortunately, he can cover his eyes at all times if he uses lenses (such as, say, Goggles of Night) as the spell requires Line of Sight, not Line of Effect. [/QUOTE]
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