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<blockquote data-quote="Krensky" data-source="post: 4772185" data-attributes="member: 30936">Charisma is a dump stat because GMs allow it to be a dump stat. Part of this is by not using it (or social skills) part of this is that it either effects fewer things or the things it effects become less relevant over time.Some OGL systems have resolved this in different ways, usually by playing off the Charisma is force of personality and likability concept. The best way to make CHA actually matter in a game is to actually make people roll their social skills. A number of people here detest (or some less extreme verb) this concept, but if you want CHA to mechanically matter, this is the first step.If you have a copy, look at Charisma in Spycraft 2.0. It effects a number of skills, it's one of the casting stats (although not in the way it is in 3.5), it effects your finances and equipment access, and theres a crap load of things a high CHA person can do to abuse a person who just dumped it, and a lot of feats, tricks, and class abilities to exploit a high Charisma in combat. Frankly, a Charisma based Martial Artist can be scary as hell.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Krensky, post: 4772185, member: 30936"] Charisma is a dump stat because GMs allow it to be a dump stat. Part of this is by not using it (or social skills) part of this is that it either effects fewer things or the things it effects become less relevant over time. Some OGL systems have resolved this in different ways, usually by playing off the Charisma is force of personality and likability concept. The best way to make CHA actually matter in a game is to actually make people roll their social skills. A number of people here detest (or some less extreme verb) this concept, but if you want CHA to mechanically matter, this is the first step. If you have a copy, look at Charisma in Spycraft 2.0. It effects a number of skills, it's one of the casting stats (although not in the way it is in 3.5), it effects your finances and equipment access, and theres a crap load of things a high CHA person can do to abuse a person who just dumped it, and a lot of feats, tricks, and class abilities to exploit a high Charisma in combat. Frankly, a Charisma based Martial Artist can be scary as hell. [/QUOTE]

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