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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Barastrondo" data-source="post: 4772578" data-attributes="member: 3820">Sure, absolutely you can get average results. What I'm saying is that above-average results are desirable, and people will invest a bit in Charisma or social skills to get them. Often you can get more preferential treatment out of the guildmaster because you're charming or eloquent — that's not just a play bonus, that's absolutely realistic. If you have an average Charisma and no social skills, I'm not saying that you can't find a hook-up in the bar, I'm saying that the incredibly hot person you're checking out is probably more likely to go home with the guy that is doing a better job of convincing her that she would have a good time with him. You have an average skill set, so on average you get average results. People with an above-average skill set tend to get above-average results, just as people with really good killing skills tend to kill more than people who are average combatants. If you want to encourage people to think of Charisma as the legitimate approach to getting things that they want that it should be (at least based on real-world human interaction), then put in a higher class of rewards to reward their effort. Sure, but to a certain degree dump-statting Charisma and then still hoping to be able to influence people to a high degree is not unlike dump-statting your Intelligence and then playing your character with your full measure of tactical savvy. Reputation is important, but it's a factor rather than the sum of the whole. I tend to give the low-Cha types the respect and dread that they earn, but people with less fighting skill and higher social ability are absolutely able to get more out of a social situation or conflict. After all, they're paying for it by giving up some of their ability to get more out of a physical situation or conflict. If dump-statting Charisma and getting by on your reputation is all you want, that's great, you'll still be able to eat at nice restaurants and pick up friendly members of the preferred sex. But I'm still going to offer an extra level of social achievement for the people who are investing more in that side of their characters. It's only fair.</blockquote>

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