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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5345776" data-attributes="member: 1165">They also make things much more complicated. I don't know, maybe in 2e, with its simpler yet more complex (yeah, that made sense <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) rules, you could have multiple characters per person, but that doesn't work well in 3.x or 4e.I don't know about 4e, but in 3.x there was this feat called Leadership. It was Charisma-dependent. But a lot of players (myself included) did not want followers. This is especially true in post 2e games, where characters could be unique without needing to use kits.In 4e, they have a charismatic fighter-type, the warlord, which I think is the best of the new core classes. Instead of wasting time using his abilities on wimps though, he buffs his allies. Let the villainous charismatic warlord-type use his special abilities on minions.Because some people don't want hirelings and henchmen. In fact, a lot don't. I hardly ever saw them even in high-level 2e games I've been in, and it wasn't because the DM didn't want them either.I don't want six dice rolls made at character creation to control every aspect of my character from now on. Options, not restrictions, okay?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5345776, member: 1165"] They also make things much more complicated. I don't know, maybe in 2e, with its simpler yet more complex (yeah, that made sense :) ) rules, you could have multiple characters per person, but that doesn't work well in 3.x or 4e. I don't know about 4e, but in 3.x there was this feat called Leadership. It was Charisma-dependent. But a lot of players (myself included) did not [i]want[/i] followers. This is especially true in post 2e games, where characters could be unique without needing to use kits. In 4e, they have a charismatic fighter-type, the warlord, which I think is the best of the new core classes. Instead of wasting time using his abilities on wimps though, he buffs his allies. Let the villainous charismatic warlord-type use his special abilities on minions. Because some people don't want hirelings and henchmen. In fact, a lot don't. I hardly ever saw them even in high-level 2e games I've been in, and it wasn't because the DM didn't want them either. I don't want six dice rolls made at character creation to control every aspect of my character from now on. Options, not restrictions, okay? [/QUOTE]

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