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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7008787" data-attributes="member: 284">So?&nbsp; Not really.&nbsp; Or at least no weirder than any other other quirky bits of the rules. Maybe I'm just used to similar things from previous editions or other games.&nbsp; It just doesn't strike me as all that weird.&nbsp; It's not like it's the first time a piece of a sub-system has had a further unique ruling associated with it.&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean, yes, reaction spells are unique compared to the rest of the possible actions and Counterspell could be considered even more unique in that instead of coming before or after the trigger it interrupts the triggering action itself. But D&amp;D has always had unique sub-systems for certain things.&nbsp; In 3e initiating a Grapple pulled both characters into a strange world that ignored all the normal rules of combat.&nbsp; In 3e readied actions could come before, during, or after the triggering event (that's one way you could interrupt spellcasting). In 5e, Grappling and Shoving are still weird - they replace an individual attack, but only when you are taking the attack action (not an attack made as a bonus action or opportunity attack, unless a feat or ability specifically grants the ability to do them as a bonus action).&nbsp; Yet they are not an attack, they are an opposed skill check.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7008787, member: 284"] So? Not really. Or at least no weirder than any other other quirky bits of the rules. Maybe I'm just used to similar things from previous editions or other games. It just doesn't strike me as all that weird. It's not like it's the first time a piece of a sub-system has had a further unique ruling associated with it. I mean, yes, reaction spells are unique compared to the rest of the possible actions and Counterspell could be considered even more unique in that instead of coming before or after the trigger it interrupts the triggering action itself. But D&D has always had unique sub-systems for certain things. In 3e initiating a Grapple pulled both characters into a strange world that ignored all the normal rules of combat. In 3e readied actions could come before, during, or after the triggering event (that's one way you could interrupt spellcasting). In 5e, Grappling and Shoving are still weird - they replace an individual attack, but only when you are taking the attack action (not an attack made as a bonus action or opportunity attack, unless a feat or ability specifically grants the ability to do them as a bonus action). Yet they are not an attack, they are an opposed skill check. [/QUOTE]

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