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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 112551" data-attributes="member: 1645">Re: Re: Re: Can DnD ever approximate the heroic literature?I'm sorry, I forgot that The Hobbit was the only reference to goblins in all literature.&nbsp; Sigh.&nbsp; Obviously, if you want a Tolkien-esque goblin/orc, the D&amp;D Goblin matches well enough -- except that it should have the D&amp;D Orc's Light Sensitivity, and it's default equipment should include a Small scimitar.Anyway, with the exception of The Hobbit, the word &quot;goblin&quot; doesn't mean &quot;small orc&quot;.&nbsp; It usually refers to a nasty fairy/spirit.&nbsp; Oddly, in a game with Goblins, Hobgoblins, Bugbears, and Orcs, they're all variants on Tolkien's Orcs: nasty, brutish humanoids that wear armor and wield weapons as warriors.&nbsp; None of them represent the fey trickster usually referred to as a &quot;goblin&quot;.Dominate people?You act as if I suggested that there's One True Dragon, and it's not the one you like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 112551, member: 1645"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Can DnD ever approximate the heroic literature?[/b] I'm sorry, I forgot that [i]The Hobbit[/i] was the only reference to goblins in all literature. Sigh. Obviously, if you want a Tolkien-esque goblin/orc, the D&D Goblin matches well enough -- except that it should have the D&D Orc's Light Sensitivity, and it's default equipment should include a Small scimitar. Anyway, with the exception of [i]The Hobbit[/i], the word "goblin" doesn't mean "small orc". It usually refers to a nasty fairy/spirit. Oddly, in a game with Goblins, Hobgoblins, Bugbears, and Orcs, they're all variants on Tolkien's Orcs: nasty, brutish humanoids that wear armor and wield weapons as warriors. None of them represent the fey trickster usually referred to as a "goblin". Dominate people? You act as if I suggested that there's One True Dragon, and it's not the one you like. [/QUOTE]

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