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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5229922" data-attributes="member: 78116">1. Campaign settings by default do not assume inherent bonuses except Dark Sun, making this point irrelevant for most campaigns. This isn't something in reference to Dark Sun specifically.1.25. This is perfectly allowable, because you can target squares with powers that target creatures. Therefore you can indeed toss the weapon anywhere you feel like. If you're confused as to targeting, see the players handbook and note that powers that target creatures can be used to target squares.See page 272 of the PHB:1.5. This is irrelevant because you can target squares with powers, meaning that there isn't a requirement to throw the weapon at a creature.See page 272 of the PHB:Which pretty much means that your entire argument on the previous point and this second point you make falls apart instantly. If that square is over a cliff, in the elemental chaos or into the ocean it's a valid target because you can target squares. A ranged basic attack with an improvised weapon is a power that targets creatures, therefore it can target squares and therefore if it was going to disarm you, it might as well chuck your weapon where you can't get it.The fact targeting doesn't work the way you think it does collapses most of your entire defense of this.1.75. This is not how targeting for powers work by RAW. 2. I never claimed they were, in fact I pointed out it's directly irrelevant for most monsters. 2.5. That is true, but again why bother allowing it in the first place when the only times it would be useful for PCs to use it you're going to deus ex machina into being useless?I believe my point is being made right now in fact.3. Yeah, they better carry a lot of backups <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Also, dominate is a common condition for tieflings because they can turn all stun powers into dominates these days. Quite handy that.4. For PCs it has little benefit, for monsters it has a huge benefit and utterly crushes a PCs ability to fight effectively.</blockquote>

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