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Can Druids use "Great Clubs"?
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<blockquote data-quote="jlhorner1974" data-source="post: 583414" data-attributes="member: 8628"><p>Hmmm. Isn't there just a little bit of contradiction here?</p><p></p><p>According to the SRD, the reason druids are prohibited from wearing certain kinds of armor is because it is made of metal. So it logically follows that ironwood chainmail is okay because ironwood does not count as metal.</p><p></p><p>The reason druids can only use certain weapons is that they take "spiritual oaths" to that effect. It has nothing to do with what material the weapon is made of. A 1st level druid can freely use a scimitar made entirely of metal. </p><p></p><p>The Ironwood spell does say that items made with it are freely usable by druids, but going by the description of the druid class, a scimitar is legal for druids to use, whether it is made of metal or not. A greatsword is not legal to use, regardless of whether it is made of metal or not. So why is an ironwood greatsword legal? IMHO, it just doesn't fit logically for me... "I promise to never use weapons other than X, Y, Z... except if they're made of ironwood."</p><p></p><p>I can see how it can be interpreted both ways though, and for a 6th level druid spell, one expects some bang for their buck, but I just suspect the designers were careless in their wording and did not intend for ironwood to remove the normal druidic weapon restrictions.</p><p></p><p>I guess I would have liked a stronger wording in the ironwood spell. Something like: "Ironwood items are freely usable by druids. This is true even for ironwood weapons that would normally violate druidic spiritual oaths, such as a mace."</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't have a problem with someone ruling according to Hypersmurf's interpretation. </p><p></p><p>It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is for two knowledgable people to read a 3E rule and each come up with completely different (even contradictory) interpretations that are equally plausible.</p><p></p><p>Jason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jlhorner1974, post: 583414, member: 8628"] Hmmm. Isn't there just a little bit of contradiction here? According to the SRD, the reason druids are prohibited from wearing certain kinds of armor is because it is made of metal. So it logically follows that ironwood chainmail is okay because ironwood does not count as metal. The reason druids can only use certain weapons is that they take "spiritual oaths" to that effect. It has nothing to do with what material the weapon is made of. A 1st level druid can freely use a scimitar made entirely of metal. The Ironwood spell does say that items made with it are freely usable by druids, but going by the description of the druid class, a scimitar is legal for druids to use, whether it is made of metal or not. A greatsword is not legal to use, regardless of whether it is made of metal or not. So why is an ironwood greatsword legal? IMHO, it just doesn't fit logically for me... "I promise to never use weapons other than X, Y, Z... except if they're made of ironwood." I can see how it can be interpreted both ways though, and for a 6th level druid spell, one expects some bang for their buck, but I just suspect the designers were careless in their wording and did not intend for ironwood to remove the normal druidic weapon restrictions. I guess I would have liked a stronger wording in the ironwood spell. Something like: "Ironwood items are freely usable by druids. This is true even for ironwood weapons that would normally violate druidic spiritual oaths, such as a mace." I wouldn't have a problem with someone ruling according to Hypersmurf's interpretation. It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is for two knowledgable people to read a 3E rule and each come up with completely different (even contradictory) interpretations that are equally plausible. Jason. [/QUOTE]
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