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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 3782078" data-attributes="member: 545">You certainly could employ UMD to get around the restriction, but I consider this is outright begging to be an ex-Cleric.I see this as no different from a Paladin/Rogue expecting to have no negative consequences from committing evil acts while only using his Rogue class abilities.  As for the evil cleric who wants to cast Magic Circle versus Evil...tough cookies.  Yes, some ethical decisions have inconvenient consequences, and I would expect a high-level cleric to know better than to whine about that.  You may have thought that choosing the path of evil was a clever means of avoiding ethical chains, but the Gods seem to have a very different perspective on the matter.  That your measly expendable life seems unnecessarily at risk is not very persuasive in their eyes.</blockquote>