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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2816712" data-attributes="member: 31734">No, it's that the player knows and that he came about the information in a tainted fashion.  If the player knows legitimately, for example he played a previous character of such abilities, I would expect him to construct a brand new chart using none of his previous knowledge.  Just like you would expect experienced players not to metagame in other situations. It's not inappropriate for players to obtain information about monsters?  Am I the only one to think that's metagaming?  Is the following appropriate or would it get some replies along the lines of what I'm saying?"Hey, our group fought a troglo...something or other last night and it was really hard to hit.  Can someone tell me its AC, average hit points, and other abilities so we can fight it better next time?"I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me, but I would've initially thought that a vast majority (at least 90%) would agree.  Maybe I'm just not explaining myself well because from Mistwell's last response I don't think we're communicating.  I agree.  That's perfectly acceptable.  But, I don't want a player to peruse the monster manual and record all the monster's stats, sort them by natural armor, movement speed, etc., and refer to such databases when utilizing their spells.  I call this metagaming. This confuses me as I'm not bothered by this at all.  Please don't try to extrapolate anything further from what I said and apply it to other situations.  I'm only talking about charts of monsters' abilities for players to use in alter self (etc.) situations.</blockquote>

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