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<blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2818534" data-attributes="member: 30779">I don't think this is a slippery slope issue either, because acts of ridiculousness usually don't catch on as hot trends.&nbsp; If we all start doing something as silly as hiding optimization info in sblocks, most people will (thankfully) just scratch their heads and go on with their regular posting.I think everyone understands your point, it's just lacks any kind of compelling reasoning.&nbsp; Players looking for ways to twink their characters are going to find those ways (and I don't mind that in the first place).&nbsp; The thing you're missing is that there are two kinds of people who can stumble across the kind of info in this thread:1) Players who are reading the forums for the heck of it and stumble across information about min/maxing2) Players who are actively searching for optimization techniques for their characters. The first group of players come across this stuff by chance, and it usually doesn't affect their personal style of play.&nbsp; The second group of players is going to seek out the info they want whether or not you put it in sblocks, so there really isn't too much to be concerned about.Lastly, the comparison with RttToEE is a really, really bad one.&nbsp; The reason we put plot stuff in sblocks is because it can actually ruin someone's fun if they find out what will happen in a game before it happens.&nbsp; Optimization techniques on the other hand are simply styles of play that people, when they come across them, can embrace or reject.&nbsp; Either choice doesn't result in spoiling the plot of any game they're in.Well you see, some of us like playing the game by the rules more often than not.&nbsp; Read alter self and you'll see that it allows the caster to:So yes, a player can search through the MM and find which creatures match this set of criteria.&nbsp; If a form is a valid one for alter self, then guess what, they can turn into it!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gabrion, post: 2818534, member: 30779"] I don't think this is a slippery slope issue either, because acts of ridiculousness usually don't catch on as hot trends. If we all start doing something as silly as hiding optimization info in sblocks, most people will (thankfully) just scratch their heads and go on with their regular posting. I think everyone understands your point, it's just lacks any kind of compelling reasoning. Players looking for ways to twink their characters are going to find those ways (and I don't mind that in the first place). The thing you're missing is that there are two kinds of people who can stumble across the kind of info in this thread: 1) Players who are reading the forums for the heck of it and stumble across information about min/maxing 2) Players who are actively searching for optimization techniques for their characters. The first group of players come across this stuff by chance, and it usually doesn't affect their personal style of play. The second group of players is going to seek out the info they want whether or not you put it in sblocks, so there really isn't too much to be concerned about. Lastly, the comparison with RttToEE is a really, really bad one. The reason we put plot stuff in sblocks is because it can actually ruin someone's fun if they find out what will happen in a game before it happens. Optimization techniques on the other hand are simply styles of play that people, when they come across them, can embrace or reject. Either choice doesn't result in spoiling the plot of any game they're in. Well you see, some of us like playing the game by the rules more often than not. Read alter self and you'll see that it allows the caster to: So yes, a player can search through the MM and find which creatures match this set of criteria. If a form is a valid one for alter self, then guess what, they can turn into it! [/QUOTE]

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