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<blockquote data-quote="Hollywood" data-source="post: 780356" data-attributes="member: 7408"><p><strong>Re: Thank You and more . . .</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the author has declared something as OGC, then he's already given his permission to use it. With exception of the game mechanics, which unless a mechanic consists of a PI, which are already automatically OGC, the OGL does not allow others to automatically use content. Only if the content is declared as OGC. When you do that, you are saying, "hey, I think this is cool enough that I want anyone to be able to use it". That is of course, as long as you follow the OGL and include the copyright statements, etc. since OGC is still copyright the original author.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, its going to be available on Kazaa, or other networks, no matter what you do especially when you are selling PDFs. At least its not like someone took the time [for god knows why] to scan an entire 300-page book to put on Kazaa.</p><p></p><p>But frankly if the content you have produced is 100% OGC, then anyone can take it and republish it and sell if or give it away free... and you get nothing. About all they are violating is the copyrights on the layout you might have in your pdfs, but I doubt thats the primary emphasis you have placed on your work, its the content.</p><p></p><p>Some of the Mongoose products, off the top of my head, suffer from this too. About all thats not OGC'd is the name Mongoose, because its trademarked, and the layout of the book. There is absolutely nothing that says someone else can't come along, take the material, republish it in a new layout or as part of a new product and as long as they include the Mongoose copyright in the OGL, its prefectly "fine".</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if it wasn't completely 100% OGC, i.e. all the flavor text is not OGC, then yes, I could see where you'd really be steamed. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, but it was a concern that I remember being addressed way back when the OGL was initially being breached by Dancy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then the product needs to be designed that way, with targeted OGC useage and not blanketed usage. I.e. Mutants and Masterminds is frankly pretty much wide open as far as OGC material goes... however, certain key sections are NOT OGC and makes the game unplayable unless you are savy enough to create your own rules to put in place of the ones that aren't OGC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hollywood, post: 780356, member: 7408"] [b]Re: Thank You and more . . .[/b] If the author has declared something as OGC, then he's already given his permission to use it. With exception of the game mechanics, which unless a mechanic consists of a PI, which are already automatically OGC, the OGL does not allow others to automatically use content. Only if the content is declared as OGC. When you do that, you are saying, "hey, I think this is cool enough that I want anyone to be able to use it". That is of course, as long as you follow the OGL and include the copyright statements, etc. since OGC is still copyright the original author. Ok, its going to be available on Kazaa, or other networks, no matter what you do especially when you are selling PDFs. At least its not like someone took the time [for god knows why] to scan an entire 300-page book to put on Kazaa. But frankly if the content you have produced is 100% OGC, then anyone can take it and republish it and sell if or give it away free... and you get nothing. About all they are violating is the copyrights on the layout you might have in your pdfs, but I doubt thats the primary emphasis you have placed on your work, its the content. Some of the Mongoose products, off the top of my head, suffer from this too. About all thats not OGC'd is the name Mongoose, because its trademarked, and the layout of the book. There is absolutely nothing that says someone else can't come along, take the material, republish it in a new layout or as part of a new product and as long as they include the Mongoose copyright in the OGL, its prefectly "fine". On the other hand, if it wasn't completely 100% OGC, i.e. all the flavor text is not OGC, then yes, I could see where you'd really be steamed. No, but it was a concern that I remember being addressed way back when the OGL was initially being breached by Dancy. Then the product needs to be designed that way, with targeted OGC useage and not blanketed usage. I.e. Mutants and Masterminds is frankly pretty much wide open as far as OGC material goes... however, certain key sections are NOT OGC and makes the game unplayable unless you are savy enough to create your own rules to put in place of the ones that aren't OGC. [/QUOTE]
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