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Can I have your balance opinions on DotF's Sacred Fist?
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<blockquote data-quote="DarkSong" data-source="post: 357959" data-attributes="member: 4676"><p>I guess this is as good a time as any to break my lurker status...um, howdy, all.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, back on topic (if it's not too late for this thread...)</p><p>I've got a keen interest in this, since I'm joining a new party soon, and I'd pretty well decided on some monkish type of character.</p><p></p><p>I'm looking at either a Tattooed Monk, ala Oriental Adventures, or a Sacred Fist.</p><p></p><p>My main concern with a Sacred Fist is that he loses out on a lot of the skills available to a monk...I had hoped to have a character to support the party's thief in scouting, and add some muscle to back him up in such areas, but a Sacred Fist just can't do that very well, since hide and move silently aren't class skills.</p><p></p><p>However, he certainly seems to pack more of a punch, with a better BAB, better ki strike progression, and the eventual Shadow Blows ability.</p><p></p><p>With that said, I'm really interested in the numbers you and your friend ran, Veldrane to determine that the Tattooed Monk is more powerful from the mid-levels on (I'm starting the character at 6th level...)...nothing I see strongly supports that...it just seems like their powers lie in different areas, so anyway, any light you can shed on that... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>Finally, a question on the Sacred Flame ability, since no one commented on Caliber's critique...my reading of the ability is that, when active, it replaces your normal melee damage, rather than adding to it. Useful for taking out trolls and other such critters, but not necessarily something you want on all the time.</p><p></p><p>So, uh, anyway, guess that's all of that.</p><p>Thanks.</p><p></p><p>DarkSong</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkSong, post: 357959, member: 4676"] I guess this is as good a time as any to break my lurker status...um, howdy, all. Anyway, back on topic (if it's not too late for this thread...) I've got a keen interest in this, since I'm joining a new party soon, and I'd pretty well decided on some monkish type of character. I'm looking at either a Tattooed Monk, ala Oriental Adventures, or a Sacred Fist. My main concern with a Sacred Fist is that he loses out on a lot of the skills available to a monk...I had hoped to have a character to support the party's thief in scouting, and add some muscle to back him up in such areas, but a Sacred Fist just can't do that very well, since hide and move silently aren't class skills. However, he certainly seems to pack more of a punch, with a better BAB, better ki strike progression, and the eventual Shadow Blows ability. With that said, I'm really interested in the numbers you and your friend ran, Veldrane to determine that the Tattooed Monk is more powerful from the mid-levels on (I'm starting the character at 6th level...)...nothing I see strongly supports that...it just seems like their powers lie in different areas, so anyway, any light you can shed on that... :-) Finally, a question on the Sacred Flame ability, since no one commented on Caliber's critique...my reading of the ability is that, when active, it replaces your normal melee damage, rather than adding to it. Useful for taking out trolls and other such critters, but not necessarily something you want on all the time. So, uh, anyway, guess that's all of that. Thanks. DarkSong [/QUOTE]
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