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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1320749" data-attributes="member: 3051">By the core rules, no.&nbsp; In the basic rules, you take a -4 nonproficiency penalty to use any weapon without its Feat.&nbsp; Certain Exotic weapons will have an additional clause that allows them to be used in a certain way as a Martial weapon (Bastard Sword, for example), but those are the exception to the rule.Frankly, this is stupid.&nbsp; Someone who picks up a Repeating Crossbow should be able to fire it just fine, because aiming it is the same as a Light Crossbow; it's the reloading that they should have problems with.&nbsp; Someone who picks up a two-bladed sword (which is just two longswords stuck together) SHOULD be able to use it like you said, and only have to use a little care not to jab themselves with the back end.&nbsp; And so on.This is just one of the many things that, IMHO, was done badly in the switch to 3E; the AD&amp;D-style &quot;proficiency group&quot; system had problems, but it was a lot better in most ways than the current system.&nbsp; IMC, we split all weapons into 8 groups (like Blades, Projectile, etc.), so a two-bladed sword would be a Bladed weapon that can be used as a double weapon if you also take EWP (Double Weapons); without the EWP, you can still jab with it like a sword.There have been plenty of House Rule posts suggesting fixes to this over the years.&nbsp; The system we use IMC has been great for us, and we've never gone back to the core method.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 1320749, member: 3051"] By the core rules, no. In the basic rules, you take a -4 nonproficiency penalty to use any weapon without its Feat. Certain Exotic weapons will have an additional clause that allows them to be used in a certain way as a Martial weapon (Bastard Sword, for example), but those are the exception to the rule. Frankly, this is stupid. Someone who picks up a Repeating Crossbow should be able to fire it just fine, because aiming it is the same as a Light Crossbow; it's the reloading that they should have problems with. Someone who picks up a two-bladed sword (which is just two longswords stuck together) SHOULD be able to use it like you said, and only have to use a little care not to jab themselves with the back end. And so on. This is just one of the many things that, IMHO, was done badly in the switch to 3E; the AD&D-style "proficiency group" system had problems, but it was a lot better in most ways than the current system. IMC, we split all weapons into 8 groups (like Blades, Projectile, etc.), so a two-bladed sword would be a Bladed weapon that can be used as a double weapon if you also take EWP (Double Weapons); without the EWP, you can still jab with it like a sword. There have been plenty of House Rule posts suggesting fixes to this over the years. The system we use IMC has been great for us, and we've never gone back to the core method. [/QUOTE]

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