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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9258013" data-attributes="member: 6877472">There's an awful lot of things you're allowed to do pretty much whenever.&nbsp; If I'm a Paladin and I crit on my first of two attacks, I can Smite.&nbsp; I can split up my movement during my turn.&nbsp; If I attack and my opponent casts Shield, I can cast Counterspell.&nbsp; The division of your turn into distinct phases (such as 4e's Move/Minor/Standard) was shucked by 5e's design, which was a little difficult for me to get used to when I started playing 5e.Now we have an ability that can be used at any time desired during one's turn to take an additional action, and some people feel that it needs to be siloed off as something that can't be done until whatever distinct action you're taking is complete.Just last night in the D&amp;D game I play in, our new Fighter was moving, hit a patch of terrain that he didn't know was difficult terrain, and asked the DM if he could retroactively Dash with his action surge and the DM was like &quot;sure fine, why not?&quot;.Curious about this, I looked online, and instantly found Sage Advice saying that Dash just gives you extra movement on your turn.&nbsp; In fact, if you can Dash as a bonus Action, you're also allowed to &quot;double Dash&quot; to get three times your speed.&nbsp; And from the other comments, like &quot;Standing up devours half your speed. The Dash action has no effect on your speed.&quot;, I realized I'd been thinking about Dash all along- that it was an action you had to take before you moved to figure out how much movement you had on a turn, when in reality, it's apparently just a special action to let you move equal to your speed whenever you needed a burst of speed (like 3e's move and move as a standard).So this really does say, to me, that you can do whatever your character is allowed to do on their turns in any order or whenever desired.&nbsp; If I can take the attack action, make one attack, move, decide to Dash as a bonus action (if I'm say, a Monk) for more move, and then make my other attacks, plus throw in a reaction (say 2024's Deflect Attacks) if needed, saying &quot;no no, you can't also use Action Surge&quot; seems really arbitrary to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9258013, member: 6877472"] There's an awful lot of things you're allowed to do pretty much whenever. If I'm a Paladin and I crit on my first of two attacks, I can Smite. I can split up my movement during my turn. If I attack and my opponent casts Shield, I can cast Counterspell. The division of your turn into distinct phases (such as 4e's Move/Minor/Standard) was shucked by 5e's design, which was a little difficult for me to get used to when I started playing 5e. Now we have an ability that can be used at any time desired during one's turn to take an additional action, and some people feel that it needs to be siloed off as something that can't be done until whatever distinct action you're taking is complete. Just last night in the D&D game I play in, our new Fighter was moving, hit a patch of terrain that he didn't know was difficult terrain, and asked the DM if he could retroactively Dash with his action surge and the DM was like "sure fine, why not?". Curious about this, I looked online, and instantly found Sage Advice saying that Dash just gives you extra movement on your turn. In fact, if you can Dash as a bonus Action, you're also allowed to "double Dash" to get three times your speed. And from the other comments, like "Standing up devours half your speed. The Dash action has no effect on your speed.", I realized I'd been thinking about Dash all along- that it was an action you had to take before you moved to figure out how much movement you had on a turn, when in reality, it's apparently just a special action to let you move equal to your speed whenever you needed a burst of speed (like 3e's move and move as a standard). So this really does say, to me, that you can do whatever your character is allowed to do on their turns in any order or whenever desired. If I can take the attack action, make one attack, move, decide to Dash as a bonus action (if I'm say, a Monk) for more move, and then make my other attacks, plus throw in a reaction (say 2024's Deflect Attacks) if needed, saying "no no, you can't also use Action Surge" seems really arbitrary to me. [/QUOTE]

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