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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9258238">LOL, please STOP, just STOP! You are making me LAUGH SO HARD!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL    :ROFLMAO:"  data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL    :ROFLMAO:"  data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL    :ROFLMAO:"  data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" />Seriously, this response is just ridiculous. There IS a rule explicitly stating what racial traits are, and who gets what. Please don't waste my time further.I can see how you might think this, but again this is about movement and actions, not about actions and (bonus) actions. It might indicatate that to you, but that isn't what it actually says concerning actions and actions. The section on Breaking Up Your Move says you can move, take your action, and move again. You don't have to move and then act, or act and then move (you can of course!), which is more what your quote (bolded) would indicate.True. I agree it is an issue which the designers overlooked. It has come up numerous times, such as Shield Master, which the designers have flip-flopped on. First is was you have to complete the Attack action before you can bonus action shove. Then it became you have to take the Attack action, allowing you to bonus action shove after just one attack, and finish attacking after the shove.All of this simply returns me to my initial position: there is no rule in either direction, so it really is just up to the DM...No worries. I feel your posts are in good faith and I wouldn't see this as a "gotcha" anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />My ruling would be "no" simply because the spell (like eldritch blast above) is instantaneous. I wouldn't allow someone to move between the separate rays of eldritch blast, either. The section on Moving Between Attacks is about "weapon" attacks, not spell attacks.Now, its interesting, JC has stated the rays in EB were meant to be completed consecutively. So, if you hit a target and kill it, the next blast isn't wasted and can target a different foe. Chain Lightning allows you to pick up to to three targets after the first, and all targets are hit instantly. There is literally no time to Action Surge for another action before the spell is resolved.The Attack action isn't instantaneous IMO. Sure, nothing says it "isn't", and nothing says it "is", so DMs and Players get to run things in whatever way makes the most sense to them.And here is a perfect response in the other direction from mine. Totally valid and if I played with such a DM it wouldn't bother me at all.As you know from my (I believe) first post, not every situation or scenario is covered in the rules. Logical use of the time permitted in the game, use of features, spells, etc. break up that time in a way which just has to make sense (and FUN!) to those who play. That's all.</blockquote>

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