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Can I use action surge in the middle of another action (between attacks when attacking with extra attack)?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9258977"><p>You really couldn't though because of this:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345435[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Each subrace only gets the additional traits <em>specified</em> for that subrace.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's because most of the time actions are discrete, so there's nothing to break up...</p><p></p><p><strong>Consider this scenario:</strong></p><p></p><p>A guard is watching the lever that will open a nearby gate. One would expect him to be guardly and protect it, but unknown to the PCs (and players), the DM decides this guard will run for help, not stay by the lever because he knows it will trigger a pit-trap. In fact, the DM is having the guard take the Ready action to Dash <em>if any PC starts to pull the lever</em>. The guard won't leave just if the PC gets close, the PC has to actually grab the lever <em>and start to pull it</em>.</p><p></p><p>A PC moves next to the lever, takes the Use an Object action to "pull the lever". This triggers the guard's readied action, and the guard uses his reaction to move away (because he knows it is a false lever which actually triggers the TRAP!) taking his Dash action.</p><p></p><p>Now, the PC has a weapon in his other hand, and the guard "dashing" away triggers an oportunity attack and the PC uses his reaction to cast <em>hold person</em> (at 2nd level, targeting <em>only</em> the guard, via the War Caster feat).</p><p></p><p>The guard fails his saves, cannot move (since he's paralyzed), and the PC completes pulling the lever, triggering the trap, and both fall to their doom!!!</p><p></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>So, here we have what is normally a discrete action (Use an Object), broken up because of Ready action reaction trigger and then an OA reaction trigger.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Or, we get even more strange... The player has the PC <em>stop</em> pulling the lever since the guard fled, and the player thinks it might be a trap. Can the PC stop? Or once the action is begun, must it be completed?</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, where do stand on the Shield Master issue?</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Attack, bonus action shove, Extra Attack</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Attack, bonus action shove, NO Extra Attack</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Attack, Extra Attack, bonus action shove</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bonus action shove, Attack, Extra Attack</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9258977"] You really couldn't though because of this: [ATTACH type="full" width="408px"]345435[/ATTACH] Each subrace only gets the additional traits [I]specified[/I] for that subrace. That's because most of the time actions are discrete, so there's nothing to break up... [B]Consider this scenario:[/B] A guard is watching the lever that will open a nearby gate. One would expect him to be guardly and protect it, but unknown to the PCs (and players), the DM decides this guard will run for help, not stay by the lever because he knows it will trigger a pit-trap. In fact, the DM is having the guard take the Ready action to Dash [I]if any PC starts to pull the lever[/I]. The guard won't leave just if the PC gets close, the PC has to actually grab the lever [I]and start to pull it[/I]. A PC moves next to the lever, takes the Use an Object action to "pull the lever". This triggers the guard's readied action, and the guard uses his reaction to move away (because he knows it is a false lever which actually triggers the TRAP!) taking his Dash action. Now, the PC has a weapon in his other hand, and the guard "dashing" away triggers an oportunity attack and the PC uses his reaction to cast [I]hold person[/I] (at 2nd level, targeting [I]only[/I] the guard, via the War Caster feat). The guard fails his saves, cannot move (since he's paralyzed), and the PC completes pulling the lever, triggering the trap, and both fall to their doom!!! ------ So, here we have what is normally a discrete action (Use an Object), broken up because of Ready action reaction trigger and then an OA reaction trigger. ----- Or, we get even more strange... The player has the PC [I]stop[/I] pulling the lever since the guard fled, and the player thinks it might be a trap. Can the PC stop? Or once the action is begun, must it be completed? So, where do stand on the Shield Master issue? [LIST=1] [*]Attack, bonus action shove, Extra Attack [*]Attack, bonus action shove, NO Extra Attack [*]Attack, Extra Attack, bonus action shove [*]Bonus action shove, Attack, Extra Attack [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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