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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 9260933" data-attributes="member: 3400">Because if you just took the action surge, what's distinguishing it from taking your action instead? Taking an action is taking an action. You get that every turn (barring conditions preventing you from doing so) without having to deploy short rest resources. Why would anyone choose to burn their short rest resource when they don't have to?No, the action surge must come after the action is taken or it isn't an additional action. The question is whether or not that first action must be effectively completed before using the action surge or whether the action surge could interrupt the first action. In situations where the fighter has only one attack (before level 5), it's academic. Taking that action and attacking completes the action. Same with most other actions like disengage, hide, or dodge. The action pays for those benefits which may continue throughout the fighter's current turn or to the start of the next.The only real corner case I can see is in taking multiple attacks because the fighter is reacting to something discovered or provoked by the first attack (or second if the fighter has 3 attacks, etc).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 9260933, member: 3400"] Because if you just took the action surge, what's distinguishing it from taking your action instead? Taking an action is taking an action. You get that [B]every turn[/B] (barring conditions preventing you from doing so) without having to deploy short rest resources. Why would anyone choose to burn their short rest resource when they don't have to? No, the action surge must come after the action is taken or it isn't an [B]additional[/B] action. The question is whether or not that first action must be effectively [B]completed[/B] before using the action surge or whether the action surge could interrupt the first action. In situations where the fighter has only one attack (before level 5), it's academic. Taking that action and attacking completes the action. Same with most other actions like disengage, hide, or dodge. The action pays for those benefits which may continue throughout the fighter's current turn or to the start of the next. The only real corner case I can see is in taking multiple attacks because the fighter is reacting to something discovered or provoked by the first attack (or second if the fighter has 3 attacks, etc). [/QUOTE]

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