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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sullivan" data-source="post: 2075170" data-attributes="member: 28152">I'm going to link to the thread I hijacked (sorry <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />) that I imagine lead to this thread. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=123140" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=123140</a> In there around post 15 or so mike mentions a Rules of the Game quote that says that unseen/undetected attackers CANNOT form part of a flank. Of course this is quasi offical, but it does flow from that that the defenders state of mind is a key component to the flank. So affecting the mind through illusion may create it. To put the theory another way, the illusion DOES threaten, albeit it an illusionary threat. Being able to do damage is not a condition of threatening. An illusion can attack, it is just that physical damage just doesn't occur if it hits. You believe the illusion and the threat is real in your mind, so you are actually threatened. As for RAW, as with many aspects of illusions, it is a sadly gray area so it does allow for a good deal of wiggle room.</blockquote>