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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sullivan" data-source="post: 2080745" data-attributes="member: 28152">First, like I said, the MI spell to a different thread. It isn't particularly pertanent to this thread because even as you rule it the situation I describe comes up. Second, what I'm suggesting to use is "if you reasonably think you are flanked then you are, you reasonably don't think you are flanked then you aren't". Yes can leads to some interesting situations such as an attacker with Haste having the possibility of being able to create both sides of the flank himself on a blind person. *shrug* Being blind sucks, Haste is a powerful spell, and the attacker has to move and give up the Full Attack to do it. If you want Blind-fighting to function because of a different reason *shrug* then yes blind but with Blind-fighting you aren't flanked until hit twice or somehow reasonably think you are flanked (the attackers call out as a Free Action?). Congratulations you have created, more than identified, just one more rule oddity. You win the prize. Third, the "oddities" you give are coming up because a lot of different things can happen in combat. Frankly I see the problem you have with the senario you described with the rogues and the blind barbarrian has more to do with how the different levels of Uncanny Dodge work, but in the end are a class benefit. If you don't want strange things to happen with the rules you should toss the D&D manuals and forget about playing. Right off the bat having opponents at 2 o'clock, 10 o'clock, and 6 o'clock positions and not being flanked by any of them is one that has perpetuated from before v3 was released. I'm not going to give The Answer™ to the senarios you described because you can yourself. "If they reasonably think they are flanked then they are", if they moved away from then flank then they have reason to believe they broke the flank for the momment unless they think there is another fighter to fill that in. If at times there is an odd benefit for being blind i personally would tend not to worry about it since it'll work out in the end because being blind is such a disadvantage otherwise. Forth closing your eyes in the middle of battle tends to put you in a percarious situation, especially against an intellegent opponents. Doubly so against a spell caster since you may be giving up your AoO on a Readied action in doing so. EDIT: P.S. Just got a work call. I'll likely not be able to continue this conversation for some time.</blockquote>

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