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<blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 4606177" data-attributes="member: 12966">The wizard does not need to be &quot;in melee&quot; with an opponent for an AOO to be triggered.Let's see:Do you agree that the wizard can make melee attacks (in this case, melee touch attacks assuming that he is holding the charge) through the spectral hand?&nbsp; Note that this definition of &quot;threatened squares&quot; only applies while holding a charge.No, but a spellcaster who is holding the charge for a melee touch attack spell IS a creature and CAN make that AOO.&nbsp; And because he threatens a large area (as shown above), he can use the spectral hand to make the attack.&nbsp; And the spectral hand is not listed as having a speed, so it can cover the entire area at once (just like a spiritual weapon doesn't have a speed).Personally, I think this ruling is a bit much.&nbsp; But it seems perfectly valid within the RAW.&nbsp; It would've been nice if the spell description simply stated that the spell does not affect the caster's threatened area.&nbsp; The spiritual weapon spell doesn't have this problem because telling it to change targets requires a move action on the part of the caster.As I said, this sounds ridiculous and I'd like to find a rule that refutes it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="azhrei_fje, post: 4606177, member: 12966"] The wizard does not need to be "in melee" with an opponent for an AOO to be triggered. Let's see: Do you agree that the wizard can make melee attacks (in this case, melee touch attacks assuming that he is holding the charge) through the spectral hand? Note that this definition of "threatened squares" only applies while holding a charge. No, but a spellcaster who is holding the charge for a melee touch attack spell [b]IS[/b] a creature and [b]CAN[/b] make that AOO. And because he threatens a large area (as shown above), he can use the spectral hand to make the attack. And the spectral hand is not listed as having a speed, so it can cover the entire area at once (just like a spiritual weapon doesn't have a speed). Personally, I think this ruling is a bit much. But it seems perfectly valid within the RAW. It would've been nice if the spell description simply stated that the spell does not affect the caster's threatened area. The [i]spiritual weapon[/i] spell doesn't have this problem because telling it to change targets requires a move action on the part of the caster. As I said, this sounds ridiculous and I'd like to find a rule that refutes it. [/QUOTE]

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