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Can Improved Feint be used with an attack spell?
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<blockquote data-quote="Herzog" data-source="post: 4606454" data-attributes="member: 25696"><p>Jumping in with some comments:</p><p></p><p>First, the spell description specifically mentions the hand not being able to flank, instead of stating that it doesn't threaten. Which leads me to allow the hand to threaten squares, although it isn't able to flank.</p><p></p><p>Since the hand has no speed, and it can attack anywhere within reach as the caster desires (apparently instantaneous) it seems to threaten all squares within reach. (NB: I don't think 'desiring' something is designated any kind of action)</p><p></p><p>Since the number of attacks it can make is directly linked to the spellcaster, and it allways attacks from the direction of the spellcaster, the spell seems to somehow provide the caster with a specific type of reach.</p><p></p><p>Since delivering the touch spell is considered an attack, and an attack of oppertunity is a specific sort of attack, the touch attack could be made as an attack of oppertunity.</p><p></p><p>Which would lead to the caster being able to threaten all squares within reach of the spectral hand spell as long as he is holding a charge.</p><p></p><p>As an alternate interpretation, the caster can only move the hand in his own turn, and the spectral hand only threatens the squares around it, although it doesn't flank. This would mean the caster has an additional threatened area (as long as he is able to see the other threatened squares?)</p><p></p><p>Regardless, I don't think the hand can be used to Feint at a distance, for the same reason it can't flank: the target of the attack doesn't regard the hand as an opponent.</p><p></p><p>Any other circumstance that would make the intended target loose their Dex bonus to AC (like climbing) would allow the caster to add sneak attack damage to the delivered touch spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herzog, post: 4606454, member: 25696"] Jumping in with some comments: First, the spell description specifically mentions the hand not being able to flank, instead of stating that it doesn't threaten. Which leads me to allow the hand to threaten squares, although it isn't able to flank. Since the hand has no speed, and it can attack anywhere within reach as the caster desires (apparently instantaneous) it seems to threaten all squares within reach. (NB: I don't think 'desiring' something is designated any kind of action) Since the number of attacks it can make is directly linked to the spellcaster, and it allways attacks from the direction of the spellcaster, the spell seems to somehow provide the caster with a specific type of reach. Since delivering the touch spell is considered an attack, and an attack of oppertunity is a specific sort of attack, the touch attack could be made as an attack of oppertunity. Which would lead to the caster being able to threaten all squares within reach of the spectral hand spell as long as he is holding a charge. As an alternate interpretation, the caster can only move the hand in his own turn, and the spectral hand only threatens the squares around it, although it doesn't flank. This would mean the caster has an additional threatened area (as long as he is able to see the other threatened squares?) Regardless, I don't think the hand can be used to Feint at a distance, for the same reason it can't flank: the target of the attack doesn't regard the hand as an opponent. Any other circumstance that would make the intended target loose their Dex bonus to AC (like climbing) would allow the caster to add sneak attack damage to the delivered touch spell. [/QUOTE]
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