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Can Mirror Images Flank?
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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 314246" data-attributes="member: 413"><p>I haven't read the entire thread...but has anyone pointed out that in general spells don't do anything beyond what their description says they do? Mirror Image doesn't flank simply because the spell description doesn't say that it does. The rules for illusions don't say anything about allowing illusions to flank, so in general, they do not. Specific illusions like Major Image might flank if the audience believes it is a real threat, but nothing about mirror image infers that the viewer would believe that every image from MI is somehow a real threat. The images are not your run of the mill illusion. The are counstantly moving around, in and out of each other and the caster. They may not be in the same 5' square as the caster, but the caster doesn't really have any control of where they are, either.</p><p></p><p>I think also the spell assumes that the caster is "playing along" with the images. If the caster just stands there while all the other images are moving around, he'd be very easy to pick out.</p><p></p><p>Someone said there are other uses of the spell...maybe. But I wouldn't allow you the control necessary to have an image step up to a corner and "peek" around it. You could stand near the courner and inevitably one of your images will move out from the corner, sure...but anyone who sees this would see it as very strange and would probably realize it is a trick or would think you have just lost your mind...</p><p></p><p>The long and the short of it...if the designers intended to allow the images to flank or have some other offensive use, they would have said it.</p><p></p><p>If the images flank, I'm playing a Rog/Wiz next time I'm a player!!! This would be better than blink for scoring sneak attacks! Gimmee a ring of mirror image...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uller, post: 314246, member: 413"] I haven't read the entire thread...but has anyone pointed out that in general spells don't do anything beyond what their description says they do? Mirror Image doesn't flank simply because the spell description doesn't say that it does. The rules for illusions don't say anything about allowing illusions to flank, so in general, they do not. Specific illusions like Major Image might flank if the audience believes it is a real threat, but nothing about mirror image infers that the viewer would believe that every image from MI is somehow a real threat. The images are not your run of the mill illusion. The are counstantly moving around, in and out of each other and the caster. They may not be in the same 5' square as the caster, but the caster doesn't really have any control of where they are, either. I think also the spell assumes that the caster is "playing along" with the images. If the caster just stands there while all the other images are moving around, he'd be very easy to pick out. Someone said there are other uses of the spell...maybe. But I wouldn't allow you the control necessary to have an image step up to a corner and "peek" around it. You could stand near the courner and inevitably one of your images will move out from the corner, sure...but anyone who sees this would see it as very strange and would probably realize it is a trick or would think you have just lost your mind... The long and the short of it...if the designers intended to allow the images to flank or have some other offensive use, they would have said it. If the images flank, I'm playing a Rog/Wiz next time I'm a player!!! This would be better than blink for scoring sneak attacks! Gimmee a ring of mirror image... [/QUOTE]
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