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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 318727" data-attributes="member: 1118">Sorry for the tone of my earlier post, ouini, I think we're probably closer to the same view than it seems in this thread, because I have made several rulings with would have been *horrible* were it not for the players actually going out of their way NOT to use cheesy rules or loopholes.  However, one thing that I try to remember on this forum is that other people than my players will see my rulings and in their groups the ruling may have horrible consequences.  Thus, I try to argue for the rules as I feel the designers intended (and not always how I would rule).As I said, I agree that the argument to allow it is a valid one.  To me, if the target has no idea which image is the real one, then he should be treated like he's flanked - but that's outside of the game rules.  Within the game rules, I have used mirror image for so long that I know the designers' intent was not to allow mirror image to be used offensively.  That, plus the balance issues that would arise if I allowed it is why I'm ruling against what, in real life, I would support.Now, that said, I would allow other illusions spells (like major image) to provide flanking.  I would allow that because the only thing that these spells do is create illusions - there aren't any other benefits to the caster.  So, if the caster spends an action to make the illusion believeable flank the target (and thus, can't self flank) then I'd allow it. You know, if the ruling on the mirror image also included something where the images that are used to flank are then destroyed (the target realizes after they attack that they are illusions as they didn't cause any damage) then maybe I would consider allowing them to flank as the caster is offsetting the defensive benefits of the spell by destroying the images on his own.  Still feel that it would be a little powerful for a 2nd level spell with all the multiple sneak attacks it could generate.As for examples, the only example I would suggest is one where a party consisting of a rogue, fighter, wizard and cleric is fighting a group of hobgoblins.  The wizard, standing behind the rogue and fighter casts mirror images and gets enough images that he can put one in flanking position for the rogue and the fighter (it's an in close melee).  I think that's a common enough example.IceBear</blockquote>

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