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<blockquote data-quote="MasterTrancer" data-source="post: 6425034" data-attributes="member: 6762055">I think that it has mostly to do with mindset, and most of the previous posts I've seen corroborate my claim.I would say that if you don't have fun anymore you should quit being DM: try having one of your players master for some time, while you rebuild up your mojo.Switching sides could help with point of views: maybe optimizers suddenly realize that they too can play in another way, maybe you will come to actually like gaming the game.Most of all, you should NOT resort to that &quot;compromise&quot; thing [MENTION=13009]Paraxis[/MENTION] and&nbsp; [MENTION=2525]Mistwell[/MENTION] have been debating before, because:1) optimizers will &quot;compromise&quot; that either you let them play how they want, or you're imposing your will2) if you &quot;game&quot; the charoppers (i.e.: having a lot of social role-play with combat-specific builds), you will only have whinings, and people will (after all, justly) leave your tableThat said, it's a matter of tastes; as I said before, maybe you'll get some fun being a player and charopping some (which after all leads to know rules better).Have fun!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MasterTrancer, post: 6425034, member: 6762055"] I think that it has mostly to do with mindset, and most of the previous posts I've seen corroborate my claim. I would say that if you don't have fun anymore you should quit being DM: try having one of your players master for some time, while you rebuild up your mojo. Switching sides could help with point of views: maybe optimizers suddenly realize that they too can play in another way, maybe you will come to actually like [I]gaming the game[/I]. Most of all, you should NOT resort to that "compromise" thing [MENTION=13009]Paraxis[/MENTION] and [MENTION=2525]Mistwell[/MENTION] have been debating before, because: 1) optimizers will "compromise" that either you let them play how they want, or you're imposing your will 2) if you "game" the charoppers (i.e.: having a lot of social role-play with combat-specific builds), you will only have whinings, and people will (after all, justly) leave your table That said, it's a matter of tastes; as I said before, maybe you'll get some fun being a player and charopping some (which after all leads to know rules better). Have fun! [/QUOTE]

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