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<blockquote data-quote="Flexor the Mighty!" data-source="post: 6425261" data-attributes="member: 1013">I think I've lost track of the point of this thread.Initially it was players are only interested in the adventure in that it gives them more of an opportunity to get back to fiddling with their character sheets.&nbsp; The Dm wanted them to stop and smell the roses.&nbsp; Enjoy the adventure and make leveling up secondary.&nbsp; Since 5e isn't 3.x or PF with 120 splat books to peruse to find that system busting feat or combo to put your PC over the top just, what are they doing that is so annoying?&nbsp; Only creating the most mechanically effective PCs?&nbsp; If they role-play them fine shouldn't be a problem. I hate systems that to me emphasize the character build being as much as the game as the adventure, but I don't see that out of 5e yet and hopefully won't. If everything but getting to yell DING when they level and get to go back to work on the build is not fun for them you may not be on the same page when it comes to gaming. But there isn't that much to tweak in 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flexor the Mighty!, post: 6425261, member: 1013"] I think I've lost track of the point of this thread. Initially it was players are only interested in the adventure in that it gives them more of an opportunity to get back to fiddling with their character sheets. The Dm wanted them to stop and smell the roses. Enjoy the adventure and make leveling up secondary. Since 5e isn't 3.x or PF with 120 splat books to peruse to find that system busting feat or combo to put your PC over the top just, what are they doing that is so annoying? Only creating the most mechanically effective PCs? If they role-play them fine shouldn't be a problem. I hate systems that to me emphasize the character build being as much as the game as the adventure, but I don't see that out of 5e yet and hopefully won't. If everything but getting to yell DING when they level and get to go back to work on the build is not fun for them you may not be on the same page when it comes to gaming. But there isn't that much to tweak in 5e. [/QUOTE]

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